SPEER Grand Slam bullets

PaulT

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Hi guys,

Just bought some 145gr for my 7MMRM, never tried them on any game but maybe one of you did....and could let me some feedback as how they performed on deer/bear/moose.

I intend to use them for deer and maybe moose :) .


Thanks

PaulT
 
I also bought some Grand Slams; 250gr for my .338WM. I am going to load 'em and find out if they are accurate first, then I'll experiment to see how well the standup, mushroom, penetrate etc...

If I like the performance I will use them for moose.
 
I've not shot game with them, but had excellent accuracy out of the 160gr and 175gr 7mm in a 7mm RM, and also the 285gr .375 in the .375 H&H.

Note that the new GS is no longer made with two seperate pieces of lead.
 
I have used them in my 358 Norma with good results.I was going to try them in my 7mm but couldn't get them to shoot the way i wanted.If you can get them to group you will be happy with the performance on game.
 
I have used the .30, .338 and .375 Grand slams of the older version and they all worked as described. Oh......on game......good weight retention and penetration.

Haven't tried the new ones.
 
their nose shapes would make them act somewhat like a brick past 300 yards, but BC doesnt really come into play inside 300

for the same $$, I'd rather shoot a Accubond or Interbond
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I used to load 180 gn GS's in my 30.06, while all the animals I shot were dead, the bullets were fragmented and in various parts of the animals. I'm switching back to nozlers.
 
in 1998 I dropped a 54 inch bull with a 180 gr grand slam at 40 yards out of a rem 700 in 30:06. It ripped out a 3 inch section of rib and drove it through the lungs.

Sold the gun to to my wife's cousin who tells me the clan ( don't ask!) has taken 7 moose (as far as i can tell) with it over the years including a 350 yard shot - all with the same load. I use nothing else for hunting.

Here in Ottawa at el baron's they seem to sell for less than partitions or other similar brands
 
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I used the 145 gr'ers in my 7x57 this year and took a 6 point bull elk right at 200 yards. Perfect broadside shot, standing still. He took off like I never even hit him but I found him laying dead as a doornail not far away, both lungs were soup and he had all but bled out in his short run. Bullet stopped under the hide on the far side, held 80%+ of it's wieght.
Also got a whitetail with the same gun/load at 50 yards broadside in the bush.
Might have snagged a branch just before it hit him, entrance took out two complete ribs on entrance, only one on exit and kept going to the next county.

Cow elk get really impressed by the 285 gr out of a 375.
I have never gotten much better than 1 1/4" groups that I can recall but wouldn't say it's the bullets fault, more like the shooter.

Below item is SOLD!
If anyone wants to try some 145 GS's in 7mm, I have about a box and a half I have been meaning to post for sale, I am looking to bump up to 160's. Sold. Thanks Gord! :)

Noel
 
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Great accuracy in my '06 but much more meat damage than from a 180 gr I/B same weight animal IMO. Kills 'em dead though.
 
Steeleco said:
I used to load 180 gn GS's in my 30.06, while all the animals I shot were dead, the bullets were fragmented and in various parts of the animals. I'm switching back to nozlers.
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Sounds pretty much like Nosler performance!

The animals I have shot with Noslers all died but pretty much all of the Noslers I ever recovered were in pieces; front and rear sections always seem to separate.

Noslers average 65% weight retention vs 80% for Grand Slams.

I am certain that a well placed shot with either will result in a VERY DEAD animal.

Since I have never used Grand Slams my first priority is to see how accurate they are. Of course since I intend to use these on moose, and will be calling these moose in to pretty much point blank ranges, extreme accuracy is really not important. A load that will group 5 shots into 1.5" would probably make me happy.
 
I have used 180gr Grand Slams in a 30.06 on an elk hunt a few years back and had wonderfull results...very high weight retention ( no fragmentation). I would not hesitate to use them again for elk.
 
You know,I was looking at these a few years back for a heavy load for my 30-06,200gr so to speak.
I was told by the fella behind the counter at Wholesale Sports,that I need'nt this type of bullet for any North American game and that I would be happy with a 150 - 165 gr bullet....like these ones I got here,which were a partial bag of Rem. 165gr Core lokt for cheap($10.00 for 80 or so bullets).
I was bought & sold.I still to this day am curious as to there effect on big-game.Now,my largest centerfire is a .308.So maybe a 150-165 gr Grand Slam maybe the 'one' to try?
 
Huntsman said:
...........I was told by the fella behind the counter at Wholesale Sports,that I need'nt this type of bullet for any North American game .........
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Where do they find these guys?

That's like the guy that Rembo heard at WS telling someone the 300 Win Mag would not kill a grizzly bear. :rolleyes:

Ted
 
Huntsman said:
You know,I was looking at these a few years back for a heavy load for my 30-06,200gr so to speak.
I was told by the fella behind the counter at Wholesale Sports,that I need'nt this type of bullet for any North American game and that I would be happy with a 150 - 165 gr bullet....like these ones I got here,which were a partial bag of Rem. 165gr Core lokt for cheap($10.00 for 80 or so bullets).
I was bought & sold.I still to this day am curious as to there effect on big-game.Now,my largest centerfire is a .308.So maybe a 150-165 gr Grand Slam maybe the 'one' to try?
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Why not? said:
Where do they find these guys?

That's like the guy that Rembo heard at WS telling someone the 300 Win Mag would not kill a grizzly bear. :rolleyes:

Ted
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I see that you also have some of these guys there in the west...:eek:

Yah... some of these supposed experienced staff member say some pretty dumb affirmation behind the counter. I was at Le Baron in Ottawa and had to leave the (firearms dept) before I say something to the guy who was selling BP rifle to 2 "city slickers" ... affirming to these guys that with any BlackPowder at 200-250yds shot, would drop anything on 4 legs without problems....... just had to leave....

Thanks for all who answered concerning these GS bullets.... :cool:

PaulT --OUT--
 
Huntsman said:
You know,I was looking at these a few years back for a heavy load for my 30-06,200gr so to speak.
I was told by the fella behind the counter at Wholesale Sports,that I need'nt this type of bullet for any North American game and that I would be happy with a 150 - 165 gr bullet....like these ones I got here,which were a partial bag of Rem. 165gr Core lokt for cheap($10.00 for 80 or so bullets).
I was bought & sold.I still to this day am curious as to there effect on big-game.Now,my largest centerfire is a .308.So maybe a 150-165 gr Grand Slam maybe the 'one' to try?
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Some of the sales staff at that business give just plain biased views. You will get far better advice at forums like this then you ever will at Wholesale Sports.
 
2 years ago I tryed the 250g GS in my 338 and had very good accuracy. Last year I bought another box and now have poor accuracy with the same load. I looked real close athe the bullets and they are slightly different but not much. They must have changed something.
I have heard repeatedly on the internet that they are made from one core now not two. In the latest Speer manual they claim that only the 25cal has been changed to the one core design. I guess someone will have to phone Speer to find out the real story.
 
Huntsman said:
Well said;) ;)
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Most of those guy's are only there to get an employee discount, maybe they have wires on so the rest of them can laugh their faces off in the coffee room listening to the bull coming from the guy's mouth.

A couple guy's there are great, the rest not so much.
 
180 Grand Slam

I shot a moose last year with a 180 gr Grand Slam from my 308 and was very impressed with it's performance, retained over 80% of i's weight and stoppped him witih 4 steps... as a side note these have probably been the most accutate bullet/load I have ever had in my 308...
 
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