SR/CQB load bearing gear --- Newbie needs help!

Longshot338 said:
Does anyone have any input on Tasmanian Tiger gear? What is the quality like?

Also, does anyone know the answer to my questions in post 17?
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I use their small pack for SR, lugging ammo and hydration, the piece I have has held up perfect for two years and was super great price.
 
I have seen there back packs and they look to be a well built piece of kit. I have never seen any of there molle stuff so could not tell you. I run mainly HSGI and TT stuff myself.
 
My civi rig is an SKD PIG chest rig with 2 utility pouches (one carries a FA kit the other a couple 10rnd stripper clips in case there is a reshoot and a 500ml water bottle to drink in the butts) and a dump pouch. Holster on my right hip and a double mag pouch on the left.

So I can carry 8+1 rifle and 4+1 pistol mags.
 
The shopping, researching, selection, evolution, modifying, and then trimming gear is quite a learning process. Keep on learning, discussing, networking and then go shopping online with many of our dealers here on CGNutz! :)

What works for one person ain't always gonna work for someone else. There are many clinics and matches being offered so one getting into the game will have ample opportunities to sort out your gear and carrying methods with respect to your own shooting style/game/preferences/ needs/geometry/shopping bag brand, etc. Oh yeah, don't ferget your personal budget. Buy stuff that you can switch around when your needs change or your game or your style or your budget. Allow lots and lots of flexibility. If you are undecided like I was for quite a while, stick with one colour (solid) or one cam pattern that's comfortable and appealing for you. Choose a cam pattern that will be around for a while and is available in a wide variety of brands and styles (think OD Green, coyote, black, multicam, tan). Lots and lots of choices but leave room to make more mistakes and easy adaptations / recovery after those mistakes. :cool:

Once I bought a bunch of Tactical Tailor M4 triples in tan, that worked well until I had to go prone... ooops, that was tall on my chest. I decided to stick with doubles, and I had to ensure they fit TWO Pmags at a time. :)

I just used the triples for water bottle carriers in my Precision Rifle ruck (molle helps) and my CQB 3 Day assault pack. Again, my packs all have Molle system preparation so other pouches can be moved around as my needs / desires / reputation/ cool factor/ budgets change. :nest:

Now enter that variable of what rifle platform / pistol platform you are gonna compete with. What if you switched to an SKS D with 5/30 rd magazines? Now your M4 or AR double mag pouches are too small? What if you wanted to shoot an M14 in CQB matches? Now all your pouches are gonna mess with your game. Every try slipping them curved SKS 10 round stripper clips into the bottom of your M4 pouches? Grabbing them in a hurry will surprise the heck out of you! :eek:

Often these discoveries bring me (your RCO - Range Conducting Officer) lots and lots of laughter. Hey, we are all students in the journey of learning!

So in short, keep shopping, keep discussing, keep asking, keep comparing, keep staring at your mag changes in the mirror found in your parents' basement, keep smoothing out your magazine changes with the gear arrangement! Just don't sit there and think there is nothing else to learn. Here's the reason I say this....

Last spring I was told to buy and wear a plate carrier from some associates in Garrison Petawawa. For several years in CQB games I wore my fav SDS FLC (fighting load carrier) and also a 5.11 Molle Vest (VTAC). I got complacent and was very happy with this setup. But now I had to go through another learning curve and it was a steep one. Now I realized that the plates I was using cut off my circulation on my brachial (sp?) artery while in the modified prone. So I had to wear the PC tighter. But enter the fall weather and now I had to wear the plate carrier with rain gear and now all my magazine changes were being challenged. I had to adapt and re-train. "Train like you compete, compete like you train." This comes to mind while rolling on the ground with my rain gear against my plate carrier and battle belt as I negotiate my 2 hip replacement body into the modified prone position. :)

Hey, just keep on learning along the journey! :wave:

It's all good!

Cheers,
Barney
 
I'm using the OMEGA ELITE TACTICAL VEST #1
Does the job well for SR and CQB but you definitely need the belt with it to carry a holster, pistol mags, mag dump pouch etc...
I also used it in a 3 Gun match and that's where it lacked some because of the ability to carry shotgun ammo. I did manage to make a custom set-up that worked not too bad.

I'm use to this set up now but for sure there are better set-ups and cofigs

http://www.blackhawk.com/Products/Bags-Packs-Tactical-Nylon/Vests/Tactical/Omega-Elite%E2%84%A2-Tactical-Vest-1.aspx
 
I followed Barney's advice and went for a plate carrier/battle belt combo. I really like the option of just having the battle belt with IFAK, dump pouch, cleaning kit, utility pouch, pistol, two rifle mags and 4 pistol mags for light practice at the range. If I need the extra mags and hydration, I add the plate carrier.

I haven't tested it for SR yet, but it works well for me for CQB. YMMV
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Just a heads up. I will have my usual BDS chest rig for sale $300.It is better than anything you can buy at DS.It is Black 4 AR mags and webbing for pistol mags ,Medic kit pouch on right side and general pouch on left plus pouch on back for camel back...a big plus no one seems to have...they cost me over $500 to get cutom made check them out BDS Tactical out of Oceanside Calif....My new on is being made same but in Air Force camo.
 
Ok, I have finally settled on a chest rig that I like.

I received a lot of helpful information from a member here who had a Tasmanian Tiger Chest Rig MkII. He confirmed my suspicion that the thicker shoulder straps interfere with a proper gun mount. Maybe this isn't an issue with other people, but I am picky about a firm comfortable mount on my shoulder. There were also other issues that were minor but altogether made me less than 100% confident in it.

I settled on a Tactical Tailor 2-piece MAV Complete Vest, a Tactical Tailor Padded Modular Belt, and a Tactical Tailor Triple Pistol Mag Pouch, all in ODgreen.

I will run the pistol mags and my 1911 in a semi drop-leg holster off the belt, along with a dump pouch and a MedKit.

My question is this: is there any way I can suspend the belt below the chest rig? I want to hang it from the bottom of the chest rig to avoid the belt being dragged down, the vest riding upwards, or having the outer belt roll. Does anyone have a way to do this? I know Blackhawk! vests have integral loops hanging from the bottom for this, the TT rig does not. Can these straps be bought separately? If so, where might I obtain them?

Thanks for the help guys!
 
I would advise doing some dry firing and pt with the new kit on first and adjust from there. Sone guys wear it really high, some wear it really low. If you're a low ridin' type, you may not want a battle belt at all. If you wear it high, you can temporarily tie the mav to the belt with some shoelace or paracord to see how it feels before going that direction.

Personally, I've had a lot of problems drawing the pistol from a battle belt, and suspending the belt from the vest will compound that issue. Works for a lot of other people, so try it out andvadjust from there.
 
I am experimenting with a battle belt in addition to my vest right now. I am not having problems with the belt dropping but rather riding up as a take a knee and sometimes on the draw of the pistol if I am not clean on activating the release mechanism.

If you are having belt drop problems I would guess you could fix it by tightening the inner belt a bit or get suspenders to wear under your vest/chest rig.

I'd say as above though, run your gear for a bit before deciding you need to spend more coin.
 
Mellow Yellow said:
I would advise doing some dry firing and pt with the new kit on first and adjust from there. Sone guys wear it really high, some wear it really low. If you're a low ridin' type, you may not want a battle belt at all. If you wear it high, you can temporarily tie the mav to the belt with some shoelace or paracord to see how it feels before going that direction.

Personally, I've had a lot of problems drawing the pistol from a battle belt, and suspending the belt from the vest will compound that issue. Works for a lot of other people, so try it out andvadjust from there.
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I am a high riding type. Hence the reason I wanted a belt.

I am not really mounting my 1911 on my belt. The holster is attached to the belt, but it is like a semi-dropleg setup. It isn't way down my leg, but it keeps the backstrap of the handgun below belt level.
 
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