Status of the FNH SCAR 17S?
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FiveBillionAcres
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I'm not at all interested in a semi-automatic .223
The .223 round doesn't make sense without a select fire rifle. If you're shooting and aiming you can handle the recoil of the .308 and muzzle rise is a non-issue. Not to mention you can't hunt with a .223 in Alberta and I don't shoot coyotes I think the Classic Green, although one of the finest weapons available, is not worth my money.
I just had the numbers run, and a lightly used SCAR 17S with all original packaging to my door including all US and Canadian fees and shipping would be within a few dollars of $2,950
However for that price I think I'd rather do up my (or buy another already done up) M-14S
The .223 round doesn't make sense without a select fire rifle. If you're shooting and aiming you can handle the recoil of the .308 and muzzle rise is a non-issue. Not to mention you can't hunt with a .223 in Alberta and I don't shoot coyotes I think the Classic Green, although one of the finest weapons available, is not worth my money.
I just had the numbers run, and a lightly used SCAR 17S with all original packaging to my door including all US and Canadian fees and shipping would be within a few dollars of $2,950
However for that price I think I'd rather do up my (or buy another already done up) M-14S
Not sure where you got the "numbers" but there are a few issues you need to think about.
First the SCAR 17S is not even out yet or priced. So your price is questionable and who knows when you might actually get one that is lightly used.
Second, it comes standard with a 16.25" barrel. That would be restricted and you could not hunt with it despite its 7.62 x 51 calibre.To be able to hunt with it you would need a "lightly used" SCAR 17S with the 20" barrel from the SCAR 17 LB. It is unlikely that you will find this combination in the US. Either you will have to find the used rifle you want on Gunbroker and then find an FFL dealer who will do the barrel swap and export for you.
Or, you can wait until Mark at Questar (Mark...hint hint) imports a lot from FNH USA with 20" barrels, pay what he wants, and save yourself a whole lot of hassle and heartache. Convenience costs but it would be well worth it in this case.
My guess is that no matter how you do it, these will land in Canada in the $4,000 to $ 5,000 range and will be snapped up like free Grand Cru Brandy at a Royals dinner reception cocktail party.
"Luvee, please paahhss the SCAR, the servants can only hold onto the trophy Elk for so long"
FiveBillionAcres
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Hrm someone should tell FN that it's not out yet, their rep told me it was in limited quantities.
The price included putting the long barrel from FN in the box and removing the short barrel but not installation. They claim it was a demo unit and it does show some wear.
Perhaps it's a scam.
The price included putting the long barrel from FN in the box and removing the short barrel but not installation. They claim it was a demo unit and it does show some wear.
Perhaps it's a scam.
Could be. I would be VERY careful with the 17S. I have a contact in the US who handles a lot of FNH USA stuff and he figures the 17S will not be out until middle 2010 and I also have a FNH USA e-mail telling me they are not available until 2010.
While it could be true, make sure you do your due diligence. I would imagine from the demand for the initial 16S lot that if there was a 17S available it would be auctioned on gunbroker for north of $9,000 USF.
FiveBillionAcres
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Wow really? That's nutty, I wouldn't spend $10k on any gun ever. Maybe on a whole case of guns but not on a single one.
If you think it's that high maybe it's stolen or something, a dealer wouldn't want to unload something that cheap if he knew there would be a market. Even if he had to buy replacement plastic for it.
Who knows, maybe once the long gun registry is gone (yeah that'll happen) we can get the FAL and AR put into non-restricted. I think there is no way the AK is moving. Though really I think to get a registry bill passed they'd have to actually put in something like making all semi-autos restricted.
If you think it's that high maybe it's stolen or something, a dealer wouldn't want to unload something that cheap if he knew there would be a market. Even if he had to buy replacement plastic for it.
Who knows, maybe once the long gun registry is gone (yeah that'll happen) we can get the FAL and AR put into non-restricted. I think there is no way the AK is moving. Though really I think to get a registry bill passed they'd have to actually put in something like making all semi-autos restricted.
FN did release some of them a few months ago. They were going for crazy prices on Gunbroker.
Was that the 17S? The 16S was released to dealers who had participated in the FNH USA stocking program and my understanding is that they received them free.
And yes the initial batch of 16S that was on Gunbroker initially fetched almost $9k in some cases but they are now down to around $2,700. However, as far as I am aware, no 17S were on that site or any other.
Not sure where the 17S that FiveBillionAcres is talking about came from but I would treat it as suspect until proper due diligence and provenance could be determined. Don't get me wrong, if he could get it for that price and it was a real transaction I would bow before him and be really really really happy for him. Just be careful.
Why not get a gun that doesn't require you to shoot a threat multiple times to stop it?
Not sure how many of us will be shooting "threats" other than those scary 100m targets.
I get what you mean though. For a hunting rifle I think the SCAR 17S with the 20" barrel and a scope would be great. Also good to have SA in case you have a bear encounter.
It is not a "weapon" it is a semi-automatic SPORTING rifle or HUNTING rifle. We need to police ourselves and stop using BS loaded terms that the left-wing media prefer to use in order to demonize civilian firearms ownership. Same goes for "hi-cap"...they're not high capacity, they're STANDARD or FULL capacity magazines.
I'd still take a Swiss Arms rifle over an FN SCAR anyday of the week.
kiss my a$$
...after posting I received a number of warning PM's to take down the dealers info, there was a newsletter sent out to the dealers customers with info, and a link to pre-order... but it is privileged information, so I edited my post
FiveBillionAcres
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X-man, respectfully I do not agree with you on the “weapon” statement.
I do not generally use the generic phrase "standard capacity" or "high capacity" because there is no largely accepted de facto, or official standard for capacity. When refering to a magazine that is standardized, including capacity, I would consider it as it is accurate and descriptive.
However, a weapon is any tool, physical or otherwisem, which can reasonable be expected to be used, or incidentally is used to apply force to an entity. A pen can be a weapon, a knife, a firearm, or a bat. Regardless of if the weapon is used for human against human violence, (justified or otherwise) or if it's used to shoot a coyote.
I will not pretend the world isn't as it is in order to not offend people, or to manipulate public impression in a way intended to cause someone to arrive at a conclusion or opinion they would not otherwise arrive at when presented a complete, accurate, descriptive portfolio of information.
It is my opinion that “Weasel words, are for weasels.”
I do not generally use the generic phrase "standard capacity" or "high capacity" because there is no largely accepted de facto, or official standard for capacity. When refering to a magazine that is standardized, including capacity, I would consider it as it is accurate and descriptive.
However, a weapon is any tool, physical or otherwisem, which can reasonable be expected to be used, or incidentally is used to apply force to an entity. A pen can be a weapon, a knife, a firearm, or a bat. Regardless of if the weapon is used for human against human violence, (justified or otherwise) or if it's used to shoot a coyote.
I will not pretend the world isn't as it is in order to not offend people, or to manipulate public impression in a way intended to cause someone to arrive at a conclusion or opinion they would not otherwise arrive at when presented a complete, accurate, descriptive portfolio of information.
It is my opinion that “Weasel words, are for weasels.”
Insiders are insiders and outsiders shall remain outsiders apparently.
I'm sorry for how cool it is and all, the SCAR is just butt ugly in my opinion. Give me a $500 Norinco-plinko to scratch the .308 itch and spend the rest on ammo instead. Besides won't Nichols handle parts/warrantee for FNH? If so, a big ol' pass for me...
