Sticky for Ruger PCC

at first i thought the notch on the hammer was so fine that the sear just wasn't catching what with the added 9mm recoil. but then i noticed that the back of the VQ hammer had a slightly different shape and wasn't always triggering the disconnector. allowing the bolt to travel further back seemed to fix it. also take a good look at how you do the shims on the hammer; put them in the wrong place and the hammer notch gets too small for 9mm.

and an edit - got a 5 round burst the other day. gun was working fine until it got dirty an the doubles showed up again. ended with an out of battery detonation that blew the mag out the bottom and left a chunk of bullet in the chamber (good news i guess; an oob will not blow the gun up in my face, but i do have an aluminum chassis ...). VQ hammer now in the bin and back to OEM and a 3.5# pull. i could f around with it some more - reduce the diameter of the shims to get more sear engagement - but VQ is a garbage company and no more of them for me; not the first time i've had issues with those guys.

another edit - there must be something with the front/top of the hammer that drags the bolt as well, as i stopped getting fte's when i ditched the VQ hammer.
 
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more trigger talk. i also have the tandemcross flat trigger. nice trigger, but the angle of flatness seems more conducive to the rifle stock versions of the pc9 where there is an upward angle to the trigger pull, and not as good for pistol-grip pc9s where the pull is straight pack.

so i played around a bit and determined that:

- due to i presume leverage issues with the tandemcross trigger you need a stronger trigger spring to get positive reset.
- the original trigger, even with a lighter trigger spring, gave me around 3.5".
- the tandemcross trigger, with a heavier trigger spring, gave around 3.25#.
- side by side the original trigger is a lot creepier with a mushier break compared to the tandemcross.

I also have an aftermarket trigger plunger that i tried side by side with the original and one provided slightly better operation however can't for the life of me remember which one was original and which one was aftermarket so ... ?

the VQ hammer remains in the bin where it belongs.

ymmv.
 
the radium king said:
more trigger talk. i also have the tandemcross flat trigger. nice trigger, but the angle of flatness seems more conducive to the rifle stock versions of the pc9 where there is an upward angle to the trigger pull, and not as good for pistol-grip pc9s where the pull is straight pack.

so i played around a bit and determined that:

- due to i presume leverage issues with the tandemcross trigger you need a stronger trigger spring to get positive reset.
- the original trigger, even with a lighter trigger spring, gave me around 3.5".
- the tandemcross trigger, with a heavier trigger spring, gave around 3.25#.
- side by side the original trigger is a lot creepier with a mushier break compared to the tandemcross.

I also have an aftermarket trigger plunger that i tried side by side with the original and one provided slightly better operation however can't for the life of me remember which one was original and which one was aftermarket so ... ?

the VQ hammer remains in the bin where it belongs.

ymmv.
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The longer plunger will be the aftermarket one. Gives a shorter pull and reset length.
 
right, so the aftermarket plunger is the one that feels better. now, the overall length of the plunger is moot in my case as the tandemcross trigger has an overtravel screw which performs the same function, however the aftermarket plunger has a square head and a longer body that makes it sit square in the 'plunger hole' in the trigger guard and i think makes the trigger feel a touch more precise as a result.
 
the radium king said:
a scope, even at 1x, has eye relief which will increase the time it takes to get a sight picture. at 3x or more you are hunting to see a close target.

a red dot has no eye relief issues and can get on target very quickly - as fast as irons PROVIDED the sight is on. there is also the issue of batteries in the cold.

for a bush defence application speed is more important than range or accuracy. black bear top speed 30 mph = 15 yards per second = a bear spotted at 50 yards is on you in 3 seconds. grizzlies are faster.

i watch the park canada guys come to the range to practice bear defence with scoped 30-06s bolt guns. the local resource guys do the same training with pump 12-gauges with iron sights. the shotguns get a lot more accurate fire out a lot quicker than the rifles.

in the winter if i am traveling backcountry (not hunting) i carry a pc9 with a red dot and fresh battery broken down in a pack (i've got the tactical version and can't run irons); wolves will give you time to gear up and a 9mm is more than sufficient. in the summer i carry a 12-gauge because bears can come outta nowhere. when things are on the line you don't notice the recoil, although you can get reduced-recoil 12-gauge rounds that will still get the job one, or semis have less recoil than pumps.
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you could run irons out but it just wont be the most ideal position. I got back up flip irons on mine.

Forward piece on the small rail on the back of the barrel. Rear piece at the end of the picatinny rail on receiver.

It will be good enough for 50 yds.
 
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