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My point is: blame the current generation for the mess we are in now.... but blame yourselves equally for the current situation we are in....

Same ####ing team here. So act like it.... work to make it a right again


You can't honestly say that social engineering is ####ing up society... when the people today grew up in an engineered system.
The people that could have prevented that system are the ones #####ing now.


To be fair. It is not your fault specifically... but I know I am active in the fight... can you say the same?
What??
Nutshell. I've been active (and many other here on CGN as well) since well before FAC's were required (c1978) and in many cases, long before that. I have written more letters (actual, hand written letters) to Newspaper editors, MP's & ministers over then decades than I can remember. Don't blame the older generation for the mess that we have in the form of the Firearm Act. We fought hard and continue to do so this this very day. Not so long ago, we did not have the benefit of instance communications like we have today. No google, no Facebook, no text messaging, no blogs, no cell phones, no voice messaging, etc, etc. Everything was done by snail mail, land line telephones and word-of-mouth.

Perhaps you could educate yourself a little on The history of gun control in Canada. (There is an actual book on the subject). Liberal Bill C-68, Firearm Act of 1995 and the movers & shakers pushing into law. Rangebob here on CGN has a wealth of knowledge on the subject. I'm sure he would be willing to share if you ask him politely.
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No. You would have a broken window and some criminal would have a gun.

Not necessarily . It was not that many years ago that lots of folks drove around with rifles and shotguns mounted on racks in the back windows of their pick up trucks , and there was no real issue . Many rural folks still carry a long gun of some sort in their vehicle . It has just been through social re-engineering and conditioning that we have come to view this as abnormal ; but lots of people still carry firearms in their vehicles .
 
Yup, I used to have guns in the back window of my truck. Even leave them there overnight. It's only since the pandering to the SJW's/Libs over the last 20 years that has put us here, in the current situation. Back then I could also go out in the bush, put up pop cans and shoot the hell out of em and guess what? No one lost their freakin minds! It's true! Unbelievable I know! lol.
Crazy what 20 years of propaganda can do eh?
 
Over 60% of Canadians that actually took the time to vote didn't vote Liberal in the last federal election. I have never voted Liberal in my life and never will.

If there was a referendum today on banning every single firearm it would win by at least 60-40. A referendum to ban all restricted firearms (change their status to prohibited and give 12.8 status to current RPAL owner), it would probably pass with 70 or 80%.

It's not my opinion on what should happen, or what would be logical firearm legislation, it's the direction the wind is blowing. Firearm owners in this country are regarded as having leprosis, especially restricted firearms, and not just by liberal vegan organic gluten-free left wingers. We're the minority.

Now as far as laws and regulations goes, the right to leave a gun in my car is about number 3487634986 on my list of wrongs to right. Mag capacities and unrestriction of ar-style rifles are much higher on my list.
 
Yup, I used to have guns in the back window of my truck. Even leave them there overnight. It's only since the pandering to the SJW's/Libs over the last 20 years that has put us here, in the current situation. Back then I could also go out in the bush, put up pop cans and shoot the hell out of em and guess what? No one lost their freakin minds! It's true! Unbelievable I know! lol.
Crazy what 20 years of propaganda can do eh?


Great times. Nowaday if you leave your 100$ password-locked GPS in your car you wake up to a broken window.

Hint: it's not about the gun, it's about the window...
 
Worse are the socially engineered gun owners who perpetuate the new 'reality' (full and unquestioning obedience and submission as a civic duty/sucking up for the most minor of changes). They ignore past freedoms as relics of an archaic, anarchistic time.
 
Yup, I used to have guns in the back window of my truck. Even leave them there overnight. It's only since the pandering to the SJW's/Libs over the last 20 years that has put us here, in the current situation. Back then I could also go out in the bush, put up pop cans and shoot the hell out of em and guess what? No one lost their freakin minds! It's true! Unbelievable I know! lol.
Crazy what 20 years of propaganda can do eh?

I remember those days well as I also had rack in my truck ....but now if some busybody sees a kid with a BB gun , the SWAT team will show up . I still carry a long gun in my vehicle and quads sometimes ; but it is secured out of sight ; and I do not advertise the fact that my vehicle may have a firearm in it....
 
LOL. Why do you have a broken window or door in your home? My car doesn't and wouldn't have a banner advertising I have guns.

I had a broken window in my car, thief stole a GPS worth 100$ (worth 100$ to me, nothing to him cause it was password protected). I would never let a firearm in my car overnight, even if it was allowed.

As for my home, well, my firearms are in a steel safe, which would stop the common crowbar-wielding thief. Acutally, anyone with the means to break into that safe could just buy my collection 5 times over, so it's a moot point.
 
Worse are the socially engineered gun owners who perpetuate the new 'reality' (full and unquestioning obedience and submission as a civic duty/sucking up for the most minor of changes). They ignore past freedoms as relics of an archaic, anarchistic time.

It sounds like a better time to me, but it's not the world we live in now though, is it? The transport/storage laws aren't new, and they're not hard to follow. Publicly defending non-compliance to decades-old firearms laws cannot have a positive effect. If we were a bit smarter about what we said on a public forum, our remaining firearms rights would be better off for it.

Why would you guess that CGN mod/admin team decided to delete the first thread on this subject?
 
I don't hear any defending related to this case, only sheep-like celebration of the law. Maybe you're putting words in my mouth, and you wouldn't be the first.
 
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I don't hear any defending related to this case, only sheep-like celebration of the law. Maybe your putting words in my mouth, and you wouldn't be the first.

He should have been better engineered. And perhaps, the actual criminal, the thief, should be the focus...for once.

There was a lot more of it in the first thread. However you and at least one other neglect to acknowledge that the gun owner committed a criminal offense and is therefor a criminal. And you didn't really acknowledge my point or question above.

I'm not going to just willingly accept any new restrictions regarding firearms, but I am going to follow the laws that have been on the books for over 20 years. I am also going to encourage others to follow the storage/transportation laws, and chastise those who don't...because I want to keep the rights we do have. You can call that being a sheep, zombie, socially-engineered or whatever...I call it being a responsible gun owner.
 
There was a lot more of it in the first thread. However you and at least one other neglect to acknowledge that the gun owner committed a criminal offense and is therefor a criminal. And you didn't really acknowledge my point or question above.

I'm not going to just willingly accept any new restrictions regarding firearms, but I am going to follow the laws that have been on the books for over 20 years. I am also going to encourage others to follow the storage/transportation laws, and chastise those who don't...because I want to keep the rights we do have. You can call that being a sheep, zombie, socially-engineered or whatever...I call it being a responsible gun owner.

We're all entitled to our own opinions.
 
Well goody gumdrops. People can follow the law completely and still comment on it. I don't have to acknowledge who's a criminal. The law people here adore has done that. I can just as easily point out that the focus for condemnation is the thief. Actually, I did.

If you want an echo chamber for condemnation and for PR purposes, go ahead.
 
What??
Nutshell. I've been active (and many other here on CGN as well) since well before FAC's were required (c1978) and in many cases, long before that. I have written more letters (actual, hand written letters) to Newspaper editors, MP's & ministers over then decades than I can remember. Don't blame the older generation for the mess that we have in the form of the Firearm Act. We fought hard and continue to do so this this very day. Not so long ago, we did not have the benefit of instance communications like we have today. No google, no Facebook, no text messaging, no blogs, no cell phones, no voice messaging, etc, etc. Everything was done by snail mail, land line telephones and word-of-mouth.

Perhaps you could educate yourself a little on The history of gun control in Canada. (There is an actual book on the subject). Liberal Bill C-68, Firearm Act of 1995 and the movers & shakers pushing into law. Rangebob here on CGN has a wealth of knowledge on the subject. I'm sure he would be willing to share if you ask him politely.
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Would you be able to offer your opinion on this summary of the history of gun control in Canada? http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/pol-leg/hist/con-eng.htm Just wondering if it is biased/accurate/missing info etc. Also is this the book you were referring to?
 
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