Stop saying Norinco's M305 its made from US tooling, no its not.

BattleRife said:
It's much like comments about Mattel making M16 rifles, or it being contrary to the Geneva Convention to shoot soldiers with the .50 BMG, or you can use 7.62 NATO in commie guns but you can't use 7.62 Russian in NATO rifles. Namely I've seen statements about Norinco M14 rifles being made on ex-US tooling on various internet sites over the years, but they aren't frequent, and more importantly they clearly aren't coming from anybody with any credibility. No reason to get yourself worked up about sporadic misinformation from online idiots.
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You forgot the one about Ak's are better than Ar's (which of coarse they are) but we'll leave that for a rainy day....:stirthepot2:
 
HawkWei said:
LOL look at the HK antifa avatar........we are far more concerned about if the government of Canada gonna ban the M305 or not........

Also FYI "Chinese M14 clones were imported into the United States from 1988 to 1994, and continue to be sold around the world. In the brief period when they were imported into the United States, representatives from Norinco met with American gunsmiths to improve the fit and manufacturing of the Chinese rifles to be more in line with the original USGI M14s. In Canada, they’re known for having around the same level reliability as the more expensive Springfield Armory M1A, while being less than half the cost." I rarely hear anyone saying M305s are using the US tooling. Most of the time people are telling me "They are legit for that price"

In the end if it works, and cheap, and non-restricted, we love it.
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It has nothing to do with antifa, do ur research, it is anti China
 
machman said:
Who is saying what you're claiming? Most M305 fans know it was reverse-engineered and not a Taiwanese version.
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It is said all over the internet. Actually, I had seen it stated so often on the internet that I assumed it was true. Thanks to the OP for pointing out this internet 'old wives tale'.
 
Andronicus said:
They're banned.
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And if you're a hunter you can continue to hunt with them for those two years as well. From the OIC:
"In addition, 1.3 million Canadians participate in legal
hunting. These owners may also be affected if they have
been using a newly prohibited firearm that was previously
nonrestricted. If they have been using such a firearm for
sustenance hunting or to exercise a right affirmed in sec-
tion 35 of the Constitution, they may continue to use their
firearm for the same purpose, until the end of the amnesty
period."
 
*MALICE* said:
I recall seeing a norinco that was stamped "M14S" and it had "made in *insert u.s. state here*. It also had 'china' and 'norinco' on it. And by recall i mean i once owned it lol.

Anyone Have any idea what the deal with that one was?
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Import marked "Springfield, Michigan" sure. Thats because the rifles meant to be sold in the US were sold here instead after Norinco AKs and RPGs were going to be sold to American street gangs.

Never saw one that said it was made in the US though!


That said are people really giving Hong Kongers who don't want to be part of China a hard time? Here? lol
 
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the very early production chinese rifles were made with fake US and British military stamps. These were never exported to the north american civillian market as far as I know.
The rifles in north america were produced after a group of US M14 experts had a hand in assisting china to produce a rifle that was suitable for the US civillian market. That proceeded until Clinton(?) banned the imports. Some entrepreneurs from various backgrounds also commissioned lots of rifles to be made or ordered receivers with thier desired markings and had rifles built. One such fellow had 100 receivers special ordered and all had the same serial number. Not sure if any of these are floating around but probably.
It wasn't until sometime between 2007 and 09 that John from marstar mentioned that the well was running dry and most of the rifles built with the decent parts were already bought up and that all that was left was the bottom of the barrel parts.
This is why quality of the chinese rifles has steadily declined since about 2009 when the shorties began to arrive.
I have no knowledge of the who's and what's after 09 but judging by the junk we are seeing from china these days as far as m14 rifles is concerned...... they certainly are not using US tooling even still LOL
google history and development of the m14 by lee emerson.
The chinese rifles are covered in significant detail prior to 2010
 
*MALICE* said:
I recall seeing a norinco that was stamped "M14S" and it had "made in *insert u.s. state here*. It also had 'china' and 'norinco' on it. And by recall i mean i once owned it lol.

Anyone Have any idea what the deal with that one was?
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I believe you are referring to either a Federal Ordnance M14S rifle, they had their assembly location of "So. El Monte, CA" stamped on the heel of the receiver.
Federal Ordnance M14 rifles were assembled from a cast in Spain and finished machined in the USA semi auto M14 receiver and surplus USGI M14 parts and later from Surplus Chinese M14 parts.
None had China or Norinco stamped on them.

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You are referring to a small run of M14 rifles made by or for Century Arms Inc. (CAI). I believe these rifles used Chinese M14 parts and receivers made by Federal Ordnance, or possibly Norinco.
If made by Norinco, they would most likely have CAI's headquarter location of St. Albans Vermont as well as Norinco markings engraved on the heel of the receiver and they may have had a small import mark on the barrel.
I think CAI may have built these rifles to use up parts left over from the Clinton era Chinese semi auto rifle and pistol import ban.

Both of these rifles were marketed in the USA and maybe elsewhere, like Canada.
 
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*MALICE* said:
I recall seeing a norinco that was stamped "M14S" and it had "made in *insert u.s. state here*. It also had 'china' and 'norinco' on it. And by recall i mean i once owned it lol.

Anyone Have any idea what the deal with that one was?
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I have a Polytech M14S. Its marked underneath the stockline one side of the receiver.
I do believe it's one of the early ones that made its way into Quebec via a Michigan gun dealer maybe 1988ish.
The Canadian owner then unlimbered it in Saskatchewan.
 
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HawkWei said:
LOL look at the HK antifa avatar........we are far more concerned about if the government of Canada gonna ban the M305 or not........

Also FYI "Chinese M14 clones were imported into the United States from 1988 to 1994, and continue to be sold around the world. In the brief period when they were imported into the United States, representatives from Norinco met with American gunsmiths to improve the fit and manufacturing of the Chinese rifles to be more in line with the original USGI M14s. In Canada, they’re known for having around the same level reliability as the more expensive Springfield Armory M1A, while being less than half the cost." I rarely hear anyone saying M305s are using the US tooling. Most of the time people are telling me "They are legit for that price"

In the end if it works, and cheap, and non-restricted, we love it.
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HK antifa avatar? Are you seriously linking those protesting the Chinese Communist Party with Antifa idiots in North America?
 
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