Stripping ABolt Bolt

WhelanLad said:
Rman good Question an with the magazine out.... rifle feels pretty good or better.......... i might modify the mag to just a top load per say with spring an no box.............(like remingtons)

then flute tube an it should be in the ball park as a comfy all dayer... no kimer... but no abolt.

200grams or 300grams seems reasonable? maybe up to close to half KG if bolt skeletonise thoughts??
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Best course of action, is to have a goal in mind. It will help point you in the right direction. It will also help determine where the easiest reduction options are.
The barrel would be the first easiest option. A chop gets the most for the least, followed by turning, followed by flutes.
The option after that is the action, having it slab'ed and fluted.
Those two options can take off a fair bit of weight, without having any nefarious strain introduced on the pressure containment system.
After that is done, you're really into chasing ounces, or fractions of same. The stock could be hollowed out, flutes cut in the barrel channel, the trigger guard fluted, magazine fluted, and so on.
Can the bolt be lightened up some? It can... doesn't mean it should. Fluting or skeletonizing the handle, carbon fibre bolt knob, titanium or fluted firing pin, and a spiral flute of the bolt body are some accepted options, and may gain an ounce or two.
It isn't unreasonable to expect between 1.5 and 2 pounds of reduction.
Remember...anything is possible, as long as you get your wallet out.

R.
 
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If you don’t want the teeker, I’d build one on a remington. As much as I hate them they’re usually accurate and can be built light.

Used LH remmy
Wildcat ultralight stock blank to finish yourself (this satisfies the bogan requirement)
Talleys
Go kill stuff

Will be quite a bit lighter and quite a bit less ugly/gyppo than your Swiss cheese browning
 
Slimbo said:
If you don’t want the teeker, I’d build one on a remington. As much as I hate them they’re usually accurate and can be built light.

Used LH remmy
Wildcat ultralight stock blank to finish yourself (this satisfies the bogan requirement)
Talleys
Go kill stuff

Will be quite a bit lighter and quite a bit less ugly/gyppo than your Swiss cheese browning
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A very good suggestion, here. A short action Remington can get to that 5 pound area fairly quickly, with the steps described.
A first gen Ti stock is the way to go, if found locally.

R.
 
A wildcat rem seven pattern adapted to a SA 700 should save you a few oz off a ti stock. With a flip flop pad I’ve seen wildcats reported to be down in the 18oz range ready to rip.
 
No doubt...the problem is him getting a Wildcat, being Down Under and all, cost associated with same.
A Ti stock can get to that 18 ounce range as well, with similar modifications.

R.
 
Would be interesting to figure out the import rules for a gunstock to Aussie, I know Stu from wildcat sends his stocks all over the world. Not sure how many titanium’s made it down under while they were made, I doubt they’re commonplace in the market.
 
So Fellas, just caught up- some fair calls. but Rman, you're picking up what im putting down.

the skeletonised Abolt, turns me on a bit if its 'light', which like you say i must come up with some figure an base it off this, which i will get too by weighing some other rifles.. & not the kimber for obvious reasons. im not chasin ultralight Abolt. just lighter Abolt.

I didnt think of the Trigger gaurd also-- right there is metal to lose.

I am really encouragin the thought of doing the magazine in a Simple Spring and Reciever? i think its called, that itself is major gain imo- these magazines are horrid. il post a photo soon.

stock i am happy with, i like the short abolt feel, metal floorplate can lose some metal easily..

Cost is one of those things... i may be able to find a deal or two, typical bogan style... i have a good mate in the cnc game who is into playin with guns...

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for the record yes its a Abolt II stainless 30-06 22 inch.

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cool idea on the used LH rem700 , then spend on a barrel with thin specs. start out well below 4kg...
 
no real joke, 3.51 kg mag in V 3.38kg mag out.... satisfactory with losing 150grams Or better! ?

Rman, possible with some minor skeletonising/ drilling (proper) in places like Trigger gaurd, Floor plate and magazine (which i will)

here is some photos of what my thoughts are---
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my Calculatons are i would be happy with only 5 oz imrpivement, an you have mention up to 24 possible ounces to lose...... heck if i were in 10 oz or 15 oz improvement, id be laughing!
 
So after dinner, all said an done,
the T3X can be hand in hunter fluted for $1800aud...
the standard T3x stainless LH can be had for $1565aud....................

thats what i weigh up for the next month while i think about butchering me Abolt.
 
Something to be said for having a Holy rifle. Maybe a Jesus Fish sticker on the stock? It would be appropriate! :)

How short can you go on the barrel? Two inches will give you almost as much as turning to the religion. 4 may give you an audience with the Pope.
Looking at the pictures, and your obvious desire to go full bogun here... Some of those areas are better suited to slots, than holes.
Also, if you went after the action, you'd be further ahead.
Don't forget the stock, either.
You won't spend as much on machining as you would on another rifle.

R.
 
At first I was sceptical about this project but now I’m fully onboard. Get out the drill press and report back with pics!!
 
Crowca3 said:
You could work out .... safe some aggravation ... 1/3 of a pound is not worth the work....
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true! i needa do that anyway :D

i got onto a shop with a 'new' 2nd hand Xbolt 308........... left hand.

So i asked about Trading in the Abolt on the Xbolt....... they were keen to look at buying my Gun , but the store is 8 hours away :D

does anyone think the Xbolt is going to be 5 oz lighter in 308? from here i can look at losin a inch or two of barrel... I lose the steel magazine and floorplate..... thats got to be more than 5 oz... but its $1800 , Scoped here is the Advert.

https://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/90639/browning_x_bolt_hunter_308win_left_hand.html
 
Instead of drilling the magazine walls why not whack a slab out of each side?

Guessing the weight loss will be low either way but you might get more material.

I wonder how much weight you would lose with a blind mag on a tikka considering the polymer bottom metal
 
WhelanLad - something a bit different that likely won't cost much. Some years ago, there was a "Kesslerin" rifle in Europe - so, a full 98 Mauser, but only one, or maybe two rounds in magazine - made very slim as a result - required an entirely new trigger assembly to work in that small vertical space. I hunted here in Saskatchewan / Western Canada for 20 plus years with a Ruger #1 single shot. Considering the weight reduction that you might achieve with drilling your bolt, or "swiss cheesing" your floor plate and magazine box - maybe just load two or three less cartridges?? Weigh them. And decide how much weight you would gain with only one or 2 in mag, instead of 5 in mag. And it would be "free" weight loss. How often are you planning on missing what you are shooting at?
 
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