Structured barrel concept
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So, what you are saying is that the manufacturer suffers from poor judgment as associating their product with a representative of questionable character as seen clearly in this thread, they have actually devalued their product as opposed to successfully promote it.
That speaks to me about the intellect of said company and draws the product itself into question. Obviously true to the point since this whole thread got derailed over the guy and lost focus on the product... BTW what was the product again?
Lol the structured barrel might be worth the cost but as you can tell by all the key board warriors very few people actually go out and shoot enough to gain the advantage it would give, this company seems to produce top notch products and i’m sure they pick who they hang out with very carefully. I wonder how our snipers shoot out too 2.2miles? probably with something from this company.
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Dude...who the, are you? It looks like your first post was having a bit of a poke at kthomas. Do I need to expand on that?
I don't follow trends as a rule, so I'm not familiar with the topic at hand. I have sufficient education to understand the concepts, so I don't need the long tale about harmonics. I get it, as do most shooters planning on dropping large dollars on an aftermarket tube, so why the windy tale...and the hat. He lost me before he got to anything interesting, really, Rex needs to work on his selling skills.
Just watched the other vid, and thanks for that, sort of had it figured out by a few of the comments, now it's much clearer. I'd like to see how they compare to a fluted barrel of similar OD, or a composite barrel of similar OD. It's probably not a new idea, maybe just easier to manufacture now...on that topic how are they made, some kind of extrusion with a liner?
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The company comes up with top notch stuff. The Charlie TARAC unit, the "prism" system of which you are probably alluding to, is a great unit that's been a bit of a game changer in the ELR world. And yes, CF SF units do use this unit. I've handled one, and it's of very apparent great quality. I did have an adjustable one on order, but I'm not sure if I'm ever going to receive it or not at this rate.
I'm sure they see Rex as a marketing tool. Like him or not, he does have a big fan base, so it puts the product out to more eyes. I doubt anyone that can actually put this product to use is actually a fan of Rex, so I do question TacomHQ's marketing skills on this particular front. Oh well, their problem, not mine.
A barrel is still a consumable product. It will wear out and eventually have to be replaced. Unless these barrels are priced competitively with other barrels known to produce 1 hole groups, I wouldn't be buying one. Need proof that they can shoot better than a custom Benchmark before its even worth considering. What is the advantage of a 2" diameter barrel unless you are running a rail gun or heavy gun I wonder?
Can anyone give a decent explanation of what the hell they're trying to sell? I can't watch YouTube right now, and I'll never watch Tibo Rex, he takes 30 minutes to extol 3 minutes worth of useful info... And I can't stand youtube videos that are significantly longer than they need to be - Hickok45 and IV8888 suffer from the same problem, I don't need a 30 minute video to explain what could be said in 5 or 10 minutes... Time is money, if you want my time to make you money make my investment worth it... For this very reason I usually look for text based reviews on guns I'm interested in, much easier to skim through and find the bits that appeal to me without wasting a bunch of my time...
At about x3 times the cost, it would be hard for most to justify. I personally will be a Krieger, Bartlein, Benchmark, HH, etc. for a third of the price, and eat the little extra time and money in load development.
For damn near everyone, the juice won't be worth the squeeze.
Just read about it on the manufacturers website: https://www.tacomhq.com/civ-structured-barrels.html
No need to waste time trying to decipher what Rex says in his YouTube video.
Interesting. The look reminds me of some of the ideas that were used for cooling early to mid 20th century machine guns...
Couldn't imagine spending $700+, plus the barrel itself though when a good barrel already shoots better than I can...
I believe Paul Philips and Derek Rodgers are testing these barrels. Not sure if others in the 5000+ arena, such as Chase Stroud and other Team AB shooters are trying it out yet.
Does it even matter though? Isn't ELR shooting as much about reading environmental factors as it is the guns inherent accuracy?
Very much agree.
I really don't see it providing an advantage over any other high quality barrel, for that specific discipline. Hell, for almost any precision rifle discipline, it doesn't provide any real world advantage that would make it an obvious choice.
Maybe as a machine gun barrel if the cooling benefit is as profound as they say.
I have this attitude as well. What's your take on 8541 Tactical lately? I liked his stuff but seems like for the last 9 months he's been coasting, not really answering questions in the mailbag instead getting on his soap box for most of an hour. And not reviewing much at all lately.
No comment. Haven't watched any of their stuff. I spend most of my YouTube time on more educational stuff these days, (Sci Show, PBS Eons, Crash Course, Extra History, ect) and only really seek out gun related content when im interested in a specific product. Forgotten Weapons and the Q&A vids from InRangeTv are some of the only gun videos I watch regularly these days.
Look at the company he keeps and the people that choose to associate with him - I will take his list over yours any day
with a total of 5 posts you seem to know nothing except to eat your plate clean so your mommy can wash the dishes faster in order to tuck U in at night
Thomas has contributed a heck of a lot in the last year with his posts and actually goes to many matches rather than learn to type on your etch a sketch
Kthomas is one of the good guys and speaks his mind and you should listen you,could actually lean something of value
Jeff
Yes post count is a good indication of ones knowledge.
Speaking of low self esteem oh my!
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