Sturmgewehr 44 Given away

Well in that country that attitude is a direct result of losing the war and having the world hate them for a few decades afterwards. This nanny attitude in our country is a different animal and should always be considered that way. You cannot compare our society with that of Germany. I lived there for fours years, and my short take on them is for the most part anything related to WWII NAZI era is generally not discussed. Although I am glad to see that some brave Germans are finally deciding to defend there military history. Not the war crimes stuff, but actually military historical accomplishments of which the German war machine was an amazing thing.
 
The sturm would be an incredibly important piece of history considering
the influence it has had.
On the subject of early assault rifles wouldn't the M1 carbine be considered one?
It was a short semi with an intermediate cartridge.
 
Unsub said:
The sturm would be an incredibly important piece of history considering
the influence it has had.
On the subject of early assault rifles wouldn't the M1 carbine be considered one?
It was a short semi with an intermediate cartridge.
That cartridge was really lame though.

Weaker than pickle juice left out for a week.
 
ilovepotatos said:
That cartridge was really lame though.

Weaker than pickle juice left out for a week.

I don't see anyone volunteering to be shot with it. ;)

It did what it was designed to do: Replace the Colt 1911 with something more accurate and with greater range, but that isn't as heavy or as cumbersome as an M1 Garand, for troops whose primary role isn't Infantry.
 
Arn't assault rifles supposed to be select fire (or full automatic)? :confused:

Anyway...the federov avtomat looks like the first assault rifle adopted by armed forces...it was used by Russia from 1916 through the 1920's until all rifles using non-standard ammunition were retired.

fedorov1.jpg


http://world.guns.ru/assault/as86-e.htm
 
Well, the M2 carbine was select fire so it would qualify as an assault rifle but the .30 carbine round is not quite 'intermediate range' as far as I know.
 
I agree that bashing the street cops is not warrented, BUT bashing the political animals at the TOP of the forces, who owe their positions to politicians and therefore have their noses firmly planted in said politicans backsides IS warrented.

The ones who stand next to the pols for pictures, and who have been off the street for so long that they have NO idea of what policing is actualy like.

We have them south of the border too.
 
We all should endeavor to make our spouses aware of our wishes and the value of our toys. At saturdays auction a WW1 dewat Vickers sold for $3000, beats handing it over for destruction. This woman probably had no idea of its value or that it could be dewatted and sold, a Strum 44 dewat has to be worth over $1000? She could probably have used the money and the LEO's could have explained her options!!!
 
Unsub said:
But would it qualify as an assault rifle? One reason it might not is the smaller cap mag.

The M1 is a bad analogy. Think the M2 (full auto M1 Carbine) with the curved 30 rd mag. THAT is an early assault rifle... but the STG44 came before the M2 if I recall.
 
shoot!!! said:
She could probably have used the money and the LEO's could have explained her options!!!

But then the federalés could not point to the assault rifle that was turned in during the recent amnesty as "proof" that they "work to reduce crime" and keep "dangerous drug-dealer weapons" off the streets ;)
 
chupac said:
Speaking of cops and what they do with turned in guns. Some cop in Calgary was taking the guns from old women and such and then shipping them up to his friend in Edm. who would sell them in his gun shop. Keeping profits for themselves. They were doing totally illegal and unethical practices in the name of the law..... they lost a lot of respect with this one.

Likely some other individual will have the STG-44 in their home after the publicity decreases.

By your statement, I infer that you are not familiar with the actual events, just the media take on them.

The officer got in trouble for explaining that the widow didn't have to turn the guns in and offering to get her some money for them.

Everything else is just media blather & sour grapes.
 
Claven2 said:
The M1 is a bad analogy. Think the M2 (full auto M1 Carbine) with the curved 30 rd mag. THAT is an early assault rifle... but the STG44 came before the M2 if I recall.


you are correct the mp44 was out 1 full year BEFORE the m2 carbine

the m2 saw NO use in europe and very limited use in the pacific
look at the barrel dates most are 5,6,7 45 war was basically over by the time the m2's got shipped to the front

the mp 44 was the 1st assault rifle
while the m2 is considered by many to be the 1st U.S assault rifle
 
If what Lee Enfield said is the real story, then it is a shame. Typical brass hat upper echelon attitude. I find a lot of the front line police are good people, who would try to do the responsible thing, but the brass hats are "politically correct" up the wahzoo. If I have slandered any senior officers with a sense of fair play that takes precendence over "suck up to the antis", I apologise. Just like in education, the ass-kissers rise to the top.
 
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