Su16 - what's the deal
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The_Sicilian
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Toronto & South River, ON
Well, you can take this with a grain of salt............All the ones that have had 223ammo put through them "any brand" haven't broke. With 556 and Hotter reloads, there have been reports of receiver breaking. I have run a wack of 223 out of mine and zero problems. They are kinda cheapish feeling, but it always goes bang and Ive never had any FTE or FTF or cycling issues. It has an extremely fast trigger reset ....It is the fastest shooting semi Ive ever owned. The accuracy was the same as my Ruger mini 14. Its NON restricted and you can run Lar or beowolf mags. Lots of fire power. I had a Just right carbine, a high point 45, ruger mini, a nork AR...didn't like them as much as the SU 16. I hate guns that are pinned to 5 rounds !!!!
That's pretty much how I'd sum it up. No issues with mine and no regrets.
Canadian_Zuk
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Pickering, Ontario
I had one, sold it and don't regent selling it. I bought it as a compact truck/atv fun gun, it fit the role perfectly. It was a little fun to shoot, but incredibly inaccurate. What I hated the most about it was how much it reverberated with each shot, it felt like it was going to rattle the fillings out of my teeth. It did function flawlessly and I fed it a steady diet of 5.56 without any issues at all.
I have two or three of the quick release take down pins for the SU-16 as well.
I have two or three of the quick release take down pins for the SU-16 as well.
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Good backpacker gun. Not worth the money. Its a $400 rifle at best buying new. Id buy one for $400 all day. I cant believe i was going to buy the FX for $1400!!!! Glad i dodged that bullet. Which brings me to my next point. The reason i dodged a bullet is because vault is so frustrating to deal with it put me off anything kel tec! If you buy new good luck dealing with vault on warranty. If you buy used and the plastic receiver breaks well hopefully you bought it cheap.
Hey Zeuce, I would have to agree on the $400 dollar mark. These are overpriced, just like the Keltec 2000. It shouldn't be $700, but I wanted a NON restricted AR type rifle and this kinda fits the bill. In a perfect world,..it would be built as sturdy as one, but its not unfortunately. For a bit more you can get a much sturdier T97. I couldn't decide and bought both. Not regretting so far.... "fingers crossed".
I spent a couple days with an SU-16 with a buddy and neither of us could print any groups that looked any different than if you stood 25 yards from the target with a 12ga with #4 shot. We tried many different types of ammo and nothing shot well. On the positive side it did function well, but that's all I have to say on the positive side of that rifle, it felt like a cheap toy and shot like crap.
I wouldn't spend the money on a mini-14 either, the one I owned was well built and rugged but was about minute of barn door accurate. I've heard the new ones are better but they are also much heavier than the old ranch rifles which other than the poor accuracy were a good rifle.
The T97 is a disposable rifle in my opinion, no warranty and no parts support, if it was around $500-$600 I might consider one but not at $900 plus another $400 for the FTU. The one I got to shoot was accurate enough and functioned fine but I don't like buying firearms with no warranty that I can't buy parts for.
The only non restricted rifle I would buy for under $2000 is a used AR180B-2 if you can find one for around $1500 on the EE. Besides that I would keep saving till you can afford a quality rifle.
Keep in mind that if you buy something cheap you won't be satisfied then you will spend hundreds of dollars "upgrading" it, aka putting lipstick on a pig and end up with as much money tied up in it as a decent rifle, then you will finally get tired of it and sell it at a loss. If you had just saved a little longer you would have had the money to buy the rifle you wanted in the first place.
If you can find one a used SL8 for around $1800-$2000 is a great rifle if you can get over the thumbhole stock and the weight of it.
I wouldn't spend the money on a mini-14 either, the one I owned was well built and rugged but was about minute of barn door accurate. I've heard the new ones are better but they are also much heavier than the old ranch rifles which other than the poor accuracy were a good rifle.
The T97 is a disposable rifle in my opinion, no warranty and no parts support, if it was around $500-$600 I might consider one but not at $900 plus another $400 for the FTU. The one I got to shoot was accurate enough and functioned fine but I don't like buying firearms with no warranty that I can't buy parts for.
The only non restricted rifle I would buy for under $2000 is a used AR180B-2 if you can find one for around $1500 on the EE. Besides that I would keep saving till you can afford a quality rifle.
Keep in mind that if you buy something cheap you won't be satisfied then you will spend hundreds of dollars "upgrading" it, aka putting lipstick on a pig and end up with as much money tied up in it as a decent rifle, then you will finally get tired of it and sell it at a loss. If you had just saved a little longer you would have had the money to buy the rifle you wanted in the first place.
If you can find one a used SL8 for around $1800-$2000 is a great rifle if you can get over the thumbhole stock and the weight of it.
Did you get warranty ? or any help? Would be nice if you could share in case some of us encounter this problem. thanks in advance.
I agree. You can't paint a manufacturer with a broad brush especially when they use different design philosophies for different models. The RFB is such a completely different gun to the KSG or SU-16 and can't be compared.
