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0% chance O'Toole becomes PM... how is he gonna pull voters from the left that we need to win

Scheer, a social conservative, won the popular vote. Harper, a social conservative, won a few elections w/ the last one being a majority government.

I'm preeeeetty sure a progressive conversative can "jive" with left-leaning voters if even past SoCons could get popular.
 
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Lewis doesn't have much in the way of political experience or track record ; so no one knows what Lewis will , or won't do . For that matter , she has never really faced a hostile media , and seems pretty far to the right . At least with MacKay and O'Toole , we kind of have an idea of where they actually stand on issues . Plus MacKay seems to have the backing of many of the current CPC MPs , so they may know something that we don't know . Time will tell .
 
Lewis all the way. O'Toole comes from a grim "progressive" family, and anyone raised in that environment will be far too red to be any good.

Sorry, but progressive is almost as offensive a word as the [word that shall not be named].

Hardly, you have any idea how blue of town he grew up in? He' does what he says he does, has any other runners for leadership ever showed face here on CGN or even any MP's and respond to members?
 
Liking abortion? cringe. wanting abortion rights? cringe.

everyone point and laugh at this child killing cuck cuck.

I don’t “like” abortion, nor does anyone I know, but I support the right to choose for both parents and doctors. The government has no place barring legitimate medical practice anymore than they do banning AR’s through an OIC. However, doctors should also not be compelled to provide a course of treatment they do not believe to be ethical. Less government is quite often better government.

What’s a cuck cuck?
 
I don’t “like” abortion, nor does anyone I know, but I support the right to choose for both parents and doctors. The government has no place barring legitimate medical practice anymore than they do banning AR’s through an OIC. However, doctors should also not be compelled to provide a course of treatment they do not believe to be ethical. Less government is quite often better government.

What’s a cuck cuck?

Yeah really. Some in this thread are just cringey socons. They use the same argument style that Liberals do when banning guns yet don't see the irony in it.
 
Lewis for sure. We need to convince hippy tree huggers on the environment, she can check that box. We need more women to lean our way, check, just because she is a women. We need some visible minorities out of the GTA to vote blue. We need a fresh start. Otoole and Mackay will have skeletons and can be picked apart as the oldschool cons. Conservatives have to get with the picture of the future. She is that. Where i live we are blue thru and thru. Gotta think about the GTA. With western support and the GTA, sadly the east isn't needed. Quebec will be voting their own tune.
 
Lewis for sure. We need to convince hippy tree huggers on the environment, she can check that box. We need more women to lean our way, check, just because she is a women. We need some visible minorities out of the GTA to vote blue. We need a fresh start. Otoole and Mackay will have skeletons and can be picked apart as the oldschool cons. Conservatives have to get with the picture of the future. She is that. Where i live we are blue thru and thru. Gotta think about the GTA. With western support and the GTA, sadly the east isn't needed. Quebec will be voting their own tune.
That makes perfect sense. Dr.Lewis is the best candidate.
 
O'tool or Mckay will both throw us under the bus the minute they are elected.and then feed us excuses for years to come,doing NOTHING for gun owners,
 
better chance with Lewis,,ticks all the boxes the libs could use,there nothing they could use,so that could make the difference,but is Canada ready for such a radical change.

Your point was they will do nothing for gun owners though?? How would Lewis or Sloan be any different??
 
O'Toole will not win an election if he is the CPC leader. The CPC needs a leader than can pull Liberal votes, even if it means they do not have policies we all prefer. Conservatives will always vote conservative, we need a more centrist leader to pull swing ridings. O'Toole is sadly not that.
 
People are sick of the "politician" archetype.
The well dressed suit with no spine to be found, a traitor and a back stabber. Sheer embodied this well and sunk to the level of using leftist tactics. Nobody trusts these establishment politicians anymore and for good reason! We know they are taking dirty money to work against the people's interest.
That's why people like Trump, because he is at least 20% on the people's side, and not "establishment". Cpc refuses to embrace this and is still trying to play the identity politics that went stale in 2012.
Lewis is a breath of fresh air because she hasn't been involved in this clown show too long, but I am looking into O'toole as well despite what I said.
 
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