Suppressors?

OldSavage said:
You are completely correct and no disrespect taken. I don't think that the responsible gun community should be punished for the actions of the few but those few still exist.

I am on board and understand the position being portrayed in this thread.

As for the noise complaint in Orono, couldn't baffles or other sound deading devices be used? Would 20 db really make the residents happy?

No one wants dumps, quarries, airports, etc in their back yard but they need to go somewhere. Gun clubs (and hunting and fishing clubs) are part of our heritage and serve a purpose in responsible hunting and firearm ownership. I believe that people are entitled to lower noise limits but don't you think they'd complain anyway?

I guess suppressors would be an easy fix for handguns and rifles but what options would there be for shotguns?

I grew up beside the luther marsh, and on duck opener it sounds like world war 3 yet I've never heard a single person complain. It was there when they bought the place and it will be there when they sell. Its only for a short period of time so maybe its not the best example.

I think this is still a pretty good case for suppressor though.
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i also grew up in luther marsh (west luther), on RR#4 and remember hunting season quite well. I also use to shoot on my own land, and with Jamie Culp (RIP).

also i would love to own and use a suppresser
 
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I know this is an older thread but can someone point me to the actual Federal legislation banning silencers? I can't find it.

Thanks.
 
Kanaima said:
I know this is an older thread but can someone point me to the actual Federal legislation banning silencers? I can't find it.

Thanks.
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It falls under the "prohibited device" category. It's not flat out illegal, but you need special paperwork to get one, which you aren't going to get if you aren't an LEO or with the military, or supply them as a business.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/FullText.html#h-38

Prohibited list via CBSA: http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5044-eng.html#P002
 
Suputin said:
Silencers are banned under the Criminal Code, not the Firearms Act. They are classed the same as nunchucks, switch blades and brass knuckles.
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It would appear you didn't follow my link. The first link is for the Criminal Code sections relating specifically to Firearms, and the answer to his question is right there:
“prohibited device” means

(a) any component or part of a weapon, or any accessory for use with a weapon, that is prescribed to be a prohibited device,

(b) a handgun barrel that is equal to or less than 105 mm in length, but does not include any such handgun barrel that is prescribed, where the handgun barrel is for use in international sporting competitions governed by the rules of the International Shooting Union,

(c) a device or contrivance designed or intended to muffle or stop the sound or report of a firearm,

(d) a cartridge magazine that is prescribed to be a prohibited device, or

(e) a replica firearm;
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Bold/underline my emphasis.

The 2nd link was for additional easy reference.
 
I shudder to think how bad poaching would get if you could walk into a Basspro to buy a suppresor for your rifle. Anyone else living in rural Canada feel this way? It's already ridiculous and goes on year round. What happens when the poachers aren't even afraid of the report of their rifle?
 
ShawnM said:
I shudder to think how bad poaching would get if you could walk into a Basspro to buy a suppresor for your rifle. Anyone else living in rural Canada feel this way? It's already ridiculous and goes on year round. What happens when the poachers aren't even afraid of the report of their rifle?
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Try reporting the criminals before assuming that legal firearms enthusiasts would be instant criminal poachers.
 
ShawnM said:
I shudder to think how bad poaching would get if you could walk into a Basspro to buy a suppresor for your rifle. Anyone else living in rural Canada feel this way? It's already ridiculous and goes on year round. What happens when the poachers aren't even afraid of the report of their rifle?
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How exactly does prohibating something prevent criminals from getting them?

And be specific, I really want to know.

Shawn
 
ShawnM said:
I shudder to think how bad poaching would get if you could walk into a Basspro to buy a suppresor for your rifle. Anyone else living in rural Canada feel this way? It's already ridiculous and goes on year round. What happens when the poachers aren't even afraid of the report of their rifle?
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Yeah........, sorry how would this be any different than poaching with a bow or crossbow? Poachers gonna poach suppressed or not.

Yes let's keep them banned for the sake of a few poachers while the benefits to 1000's of shooters ears is ignored, makes perfect sense in a nanny state.

Better yet let's just ban guns so that poachers can't walk into Bass Pro and buy them for poaching!
 
sapper043 said:
Try reporting the criminals before assuming that legal firearms enthusiasts would be instant criminal poachers.
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Didn't say that, if you think I did try re-reading my post.

If you guys think poaching wouldn't increase if suppresors were available at a sporting goods store then you need to step back and take a look at the broader picture. It's one thing to have hobbies, enthusiams, etc. but it's another to be blind to the bigger picture.

How many wing nuts out there don't poach, or poach as much game even, because they can't use a silent method like a bow/crossbow? Or potential wing-nuts that would if they could?

As for the protecting shooter's ears arguments. It's pretty lame really, a 25 cent pair of ear plugs would do just as much to protect your ears and doesn't invite the potential that suppresors would.
 
ShawnM said:
Didn't say that, if you think I did try re-reading my post.

If you guys think poaching wouldn't increase if suppresors were available at a sporting goods store then you need to step back and take a look at the broader picture. It's one thing to have hobbies, enthusiams, etc. but it's another to be blind to the bigger picture.

How many wing nuts out there don't poach, or poach as much game even, because they can't use a silent method like a bow/crossbow? Or potential wing-nuts that would if they could?

As for the protecting shooter's ears arguments. It's pretty lame really, a 25 cent pair of ear plugs would do just as much to protect your ears and doesn't invite the potential that suppresors would.
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Realy, Why do we have double lane highways? Oh thats correct to stop all the head on crashes. Why do those happen? Idiot drivers trying to pass when they shouldnt be corners , up hill, think they are a race car driver. So when we do the double lane to prevent the head ons what do you thinks happens, the speed goes up all we did was seperate the idiots by a ditch, less head ons and more roll overs.

If you belive that suppresors will cause more crime, to a point you might be correct but just like the gun registery we punished the legal people and the crimals were good to go. Where is it now. Suppresors about noise control for your self as well as the people around you, noise pollution. There are pros and cons to both sides but I do belive there are more pros than not. Have the suppesors regestered to the rifle this way they can be tracked, treat them like a hand gun. Just my 2 cents.
 
ShawnM said:
Didn't say that, if you think I did try re-reading my post.

If you guys think poaching wouldn't increase if suppresors were available at a sporting goods store then you need to step back and take a look at the broader picture. It's one thing to have hobbies, enthusiams, etc. but it's another to be blind to the bigger picture.

How many wing nuts out there don't poach, or poach as much game even, because they can't use a silent method like a bow/crossbow? Or potential wing-nuts that would if they could?

As for the protecting shooter's ears arguments. It's pretty lame really, a 25 cent pair of ear plugs would do just as much to protect your ears and doesn't invite the potential that suppresors would.
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Sorry but that's a pretty s***ty response. Its the same argument the antis use to ban guns and can me maid for anything.... lets ban cars because some people might drive drunk and kill some one
 
ShawnM said:
I shudder to think how bad poaching would get if you could walk into a Basspro to buy a suppresor for your rifle. Anyone else living in rural Canada feel this way? It's already ridiculous and goes on year round. What happens when the poachers aren't even afraid of the report of their rifle?
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And this is why we can't have nice stuff. Our own members stabbing the rest of us in the back. Thanks for the support there bud. :(

Just imagine how little poaching there would be if the government just took your guns away. You are 3/4 the way to buying a membership with Coalition for Gun Control. THIS is clearly NOT the correct forum for you.
 
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