Surplus 7.62x51 shoot off!!! - FEEDING YOUR STAG 10!!!

[Zen_Seeker]

What kind of tweaking did you do in the first months?
I'm still having issues with the Norc copper washed surplus. Failure to eject/ Failure to feed

Don't recall all but to list a few;

Adjust and tighten gas block.
Adjust and tighten barrel nut and hand guard.
Sand and smooth barrel extention lugs until they stop shaving cases on ejection.
Replace buttstock and tube.
Replaced grip.
Replaced broken firing pin.
Replaced broken forward assist.
Removed one o-ring from under ejector .
Manually worked things in by cycling action 100's of times.
Lubed with lithium grease, gun oil, and G96 in varied combinations.

I also tried TulAmmo and it was okay but seemed over powered. Haven't tried it again since November. The rest I use on every trip, about 20 to 40 rounds of each just to make sure they still work.

No issued with the stock mag, 5/20 PMag, or XCR 10RND after the one FTE issue.

I like Hirtz the best but was surprised by the Norinco. I do wish I had bought more of the MFS 140gr as it was great. The Barnaul just doesn't do as well.

 

[Mark-II]

Yeah, it also says it's reloadable. If in doubt, give them a call to clarify. I'm sure it's an error one way or the other. My bet is on it being reloadable ie boxer primed. They move an awful lot of ammo. The old berdan primed ammo is long gone.

Weren't Tenda the ones who were advertising it as reloadable even though it was berdan primed and then doubled down on the falsehood, after being called on it, by claiming the technicality that berdan primed cases were reloadable?

That's going back a couple years, so I could be confused with another BS artist of a vendor.

 

[hannibal.black98]

Any thoughts/real world usage based opinions on the Magtech 7.62x51?

 

[driller212]

For my BCL the norinco was much more accurate at 100m than hirt ammo. It was like 1.5-2" vs 2-3".

 

[y2k]

I’ve used norinco in my mauser. It’s kind of dirty. Wouldn’t it plug the gas tube in time ?

 

[1340]

Norinco surplus turns my stag 10 to a single shot rifle.

Please elaborate.
Do you have trouble with cases sticking?
That's my problem. After about a dozen rounds I get a stuck case.
That's how I learned about "mortaring".
I read using car wax on the cases helps.

 

[Sunchild2071]

For my BCL the norinco was much more accurate at 100m than hirt ammo. It was like 1.5-2" vs 2-3".

Funny, this is my experience, as well. I found it odd, actually.

And no issues with the norinco in either of my BCL or Stag. Both seem to run it just fine.

 

[OR4NGE]

Concerning Hirtenberger.

Berdan primed ammo have a white ribbon around each 20 round boxes while boxer have a grey one.

Shot about 720 rounds of each and accuracy wise :

Berdan averages 1.2 MOA
Boxer averages 1.4 MOA

Do berdan is not easily reloadable but it is the better round IMP, and cheaper as well.

Now if only someone could review the magtech ammo...

 

[B]

I ran 80 rounds of Barnaul 140 SP through my stag a few days ago. All cycled 100% and were reasonably accurate as well. Averaged 2840fps from my factory barrel. This is in contrast to some 2016 Lake City ball I used that was so inaccurate I thought my scope was broken. 4-6" group with lots of wild flyers showing up 1-4 feet from point of aim.

 

[wildphil24]

Did start break-in with Austrian HP surplus. Result were equal to PMC Bronze, which I came to have high expectations for the price. 1.5-2MOA without perfect technique.

Figuring a drop chart for the HP in a Maple Ridge 18.5" barrel.
1900ft, 25C
Avg velocity 2686 fps
146gr FMJ-BT (pulled a bullet to confirm)
G7 BC: 0.198

Range M 100 200 250 300 350 400 450 500 550 600
Drop Inch 0 4,5 10 18 28 42 59 80 105 136
Drop Mil 0 0,6 1 1,5 2 2,6 3,3 4,1 4,9 5,8

Average velocity was 2765 in a 20" barrel, 79 fps more than 18.6".