Surplus x95 Micro Tavor MSW
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Rifles and carbines are supposed to be used in semi 99.99% of the time. Shooting in burst is the job of the LMG or SAW in the squad / section.
Yes, it is better to give people more options than it is needed, but realistically unless solders ( as well as the commanders and the doctrines) are actually trained to know when and how to employ FA with a rifle in those rather limited circumstance ( which mostly do not happen for 99% of the big army), it is no love loss.
Otherwise it is just an after thought and a way not to return ammo after training. You can also argue that giving the fun switch to a largely post teenage conscript army running around everywhere with weapons in malls and bus station ( risk of ND, potential weapon loss, kidnapping...etc ), it is a balancing act of risk management.
this is ww2 russian thinking when they didnt trust the peasants soldiers with separate mags bcos they will lose them and waste ammo with full auto so they made the sks with fixed mags and semi auto but engagement with the germans with stg44 changed all that. after ww2 , came the AK47 and time to train soldiers to handle auto.
so how many countries have their issued rifles semi only?
The answer to that question lies with ammo consumption if you think of how infantry works, not just one dude. Sounds great for SMG and people with AK to shoot full auto in theory, but the team shooting semi auto using modern weapons with disciplined rate of fire and accuracy will out last the team where everyone is spraying inaccurate FA fire using crappy weapons ( note that I say crappy weapons, because the USMC does make everyone capable of being a SAW gunner with HK416/M27 ) , and ultimately winning the fight.
But the IDF is not the USMC, and X95 is not HK M27. We are in 2021 - we cannot compare a modern 556 or 762 or 6.8 to a SKS vs STG44 or an AK. Dudes learned to shoot handguns one handed in the WW2. WW2 techniques, tactics and weapons do not quite translate.
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They are conscripts. Maybe you need to separate your fantasy from reality.
Somehow I doubt that was the reason the SKS wasn't originally designed with an interchangeable magazine or configured in full auto.
The Soviet designers and factories were more than capable of designing, producing the components at the time and even had the resources to do it.
I will admit it may have been part of the reason.
IMHO, the AK47 came along, with other military offerings all over the world because of a "pissing contest" to show that their issue firearm could hold and shoot more rounds than their contemporaries.
Going to a smaller cartridge was just good common sense. The rest was for show.
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Do they all seem to have double charging handles? Every one that I've seen so far does, which is an interesting addition.
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I haven’t, but the aftermarket charging handles should all fit the same.
Got one in hand today.
Double charging handle.
buis tritium very bright green (front only)
Mepro tritium dim but visible. Coating scratched and the hood has a flat spot like it was dropped or hit a doorway or used as hammer. Seems functional enough, hopefully it zeros ok.
No firing pin spring
Some wear on bolt stop but other internals very good
9mm mag well and bolt seem to fit. Not 100% on barrel yet. There is the hammerhead part on the 9mm barrel but not on the 13" barrel.
Double charging handle.
buis tritium very bright green (front only)
Mepro tritium dim but visible. Coating scratched and the hood has a flat spot like it was dropped or hit a doorway or used as hammer. Seems functional enough, hopefully it zeros ok.
No firing pin spring
Some wear on bolt stop but other internals very good
9mm mag well and bolt seem to fit. Not 100% on barrel yet. There is the hammerhead part on the 9mm barrel but not on the 13" barrel.
They're security guard weapons that's why they have ambi safeties and charging handles so if righty ends shift and hands off rifle to lefty replacement he can use it comfortably too!
Also make sense as a training rifle used at the intensive Shin Bet run "Ahid" security course.
I could be wrong but I don't think it's actually possible to run 2 factory folding charging handles on the same rifle due to the way they interact with the neck piece that goes around the barrel. That's why they're both straight pull.
when i was trained long time ago with the equivalent: the famas we had the training with iwi ammo ... and we did the full auto then the burst then semi auto and never met someone that can shoot properly and accuretely with the full auto position but as you said training and fun that was only that ... we had better tools to shoot in fa mode. never wonder how long it will take to be trained completely in fa mode with a bull up model and our unit/regiment was meant to be deployed in the FAR (force d action rapide) and the french german brigade but for us the famas was a back up as we had our bolt frf1 and frf2 ...
