Surrender or destruction!

Don't know if this has been asked, and im relatively unfamiliar with the family of rifles, but will CZ components fit in a VZ lower? If so, could you order in a bunch of VZ lowers since they are still unrestricted? Apologies if i missed something glaringly obvious
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Even if you can replace the lower receiver. The upper receiver is where the marking are to tell if your cz is prohibited or not. Technically even if you replace the lower receiver with a vz lower your rifle marking will still say it's a prohibited. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.
 
flying pig said:
shoot, shovel, and shut up are words to live by. Lawyers are shooting in our name, so maybe it is time to shovel and shut up.
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Problem is, weve been too quiet for too long. Too many of us being too quiet, got us bill c68. Its not time to shut up. Its time to stand up.
 
Sir,

I want to thank you for offering us suggestions such as this at risk to yourself.


Risk? Yeah, you know what I mean...... this isnt a free country any more so most everything we do and say is risky.......

Its really hard to tell any more what is illegal, what is legal, what can get you arrested or not..... I dont even know anymore.

The RCMP, Firearms Act and everything in the middle....... total subjectivity totally abused
 
chef-ie said:
Even if you can replace the lower receiver. The upper receiver is where the marking are to tell if your cz is prohibited or not. Technically even if you replace the lower receiver with a vz lower your rifle marking will still say it's a prohibited. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.
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No, this is only the case for the swiss. The CZ has the serial on the lower.
 
NoBoZoS said:
NO LGR?...Then HOW did the RCMP find all the homes with Firearms during the floods in Alberta. Don't be fooled people the government KNOWS exactly where all your guns are and will most certainly come to your home, kick in your door and take them.
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If it comes to that, how about:
a) cut up receiver,
b) nail pieces of receiver to your door posts so they won't even have to come inside, and
c) smear some gun oil on the door posts and lintel for extra effect.
 
ummm correct meif i'm wrong but a CZ or a VZ dont have an upper OR a lower reciever,,they have a one piece reciever,,,it's NOT like an AR,,
 
hootguy said:
ummm correct meif i'm wrong but a CZ or a VZ dont have an upper OR a lower reciever,,they have a one piece reciever,,,it's NOT like an AR,,
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That's correct. There is no upper or lower. There is just the receiver. The barrel is pressed and pinned into the front of it and the trigger on the bottom.

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did_b said:
That's correct. There is no upper or lower. There is just the receiver. The barrel is pressed and pinned into the front of it and the trigger on the bottom.

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i was thinking the same thing.... I was like wtf are you talking about upper and lower... goes to show they have no idea
 
This is a great idea... for a worst case scenario. Pulling the barrel would be a b1tch, but doable. The rest is simple enough.
 
Maybe someone on here can answer my question, is an owner of a CZ-858 legally allowed to sell there rifle now that has been prohibited is there a grace period where it's still allowed or something. I'm wondering because I'm seeing a few WTB for 858s
 
mt666tm said:
This is a great idea... for a worst case scenario. Pulling the barrel would be a b1tch, but doable. The rest is simple enough.
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It has to be pressed out, see Post #53.

A press and some rigging, 20 ton press will get it done. Hopefully, with what has happened today and what will happen in the future, hopefully nobody will have to press out barrels and change receivers.
 
Highland Fusilier said:
Maybe someone on here can answer my question, is an owner of a CZ-858 legally allowed to sell there rifle now that has been prohibited is there a grace period where it's still allowed or something. I'm wondering because I'm seeing a few WTB for 858s
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We are now waiting for an official announcement as to exactly what the amnesty will cover, hand on for a little while longer Brother!
 
Cheers Yukon1911 and don't you worry I love my 858. The government isn't gonna get its hands on it. I have already lined up a museum that will take it if the worst happens. Until then I email call and write daily.
 
amnesty announced for all swiss arms and 858 owners,,,apparently we're good to go for playing with our toys again,,,hope my source was right,,he is a cabinet ministre,,,but who knows,,,RCMP might be loosing some it's grip on the firearms too,,,let's keep our fingers crossed...
 
hootguy said:
amnesty announced for all swiss arms and 858 owners,,,apparently we're good to go for playing with our toys again,,,hope my source was right,,he is a cabinet ministre,,,but who knows,,,RCMP might be loosing some it's grip on the firearms too,,,let's keep our fingers crossed...
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NO!!! You are wrong!

An amnesty just means they won't prosecute you for having one, yet... In the meanwhile, you can not use, sell or buy any of these rifles as they are prohibited in the FRT.

The ONLY solution to this whole matter is to see the Firearms Act rescinded & replaced with common sense legislation that respects the rights of Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly. And it MUST be done BEFORE the next election. NO COMPROMISE!

Write your MP, the Ministers of Public Safety and Justice as well as the Prime Minister!

Cheers
Jay
 
Jay said:
NO!!! You are wrong!

An amnesty just means they won't prosecute you for having one, yet... In the meanwhile, you can not use, sell or buy any of these rifles as they are prohibited in the FRT.

The ONLY solution to this whole matter is to see the Firearms Act rescinded & replaced with common sense legislation that respects the rights of Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly. And it MUST be done BEFORE the next election. NO COMPROMISE!

Write your MP, the Ministers of Public Safety and Justice as well as the Prime Minister!

Cheers
Jay
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I agree we can't let up on the letters, emails and phone calls, but depending on how they word the amnesty, it can still be possible to shoot and use these firearms. It remains to be seen as to how they word them. FRT's are not a law or law. They are a reference sheet and only that.
 
Amen to that brother! I didnt watch my grandfather suffer for the remainder of his life after fighting for our freedom in ww2. I did not stand up and join the cf to support a tyrannical government. Everyone can do what they want and i will chose the path i want.


ken 1 said:
I agree with Goose and posted this in another thread. After reading through some of the responses here I think it is worth re-posting in this thread. All this defeatist talk about hiding our guns or chopping them up or getting new receivers would be a win for the RCMP and a major loss for us. The following is what I will do regardless of the personal fallout.

I don't think or at least I hope that it will not come to this. Blaney is on public record saying that he will not let this happen and I for one think we should give him the chance. However we still need to keep up the pressure on our MP's and force him to make his promise stand. That being said if in the end the Conservatives let us down the only thing left is for everyone to grow a pair by standing together and letting them know we won't comply with a bad law. Many, many men and women gave their lives for this country and for what they believed in and we owe it to them to not let this happen. I know many here have said they have families and jobs and can't afford to risk it all on this but it's a slippery slope and if you don't make a stand now then when? Will you wait until they pass laws to take your home, your car, your bank accounts? Will you wait until they force new values on your children which will be taught in schools across Canada and tell you that the government or RCMP or school boards know best and to shut up and go along. I'm not a young man anymore and have grandchildren which have changed my life and many of the ways in which I think, it's now all about them and their future and I couldn't care less what happens to me. Everyone has a breaking point and as for myself it has been reached, I will NOT surrender on this one, ever, even if I end up being the only one. We all have to stand for something why not this. It's not even really about the guns at all but about the principle and about liberty and freedom. It's time that everyone sees the bigger picture.
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Jay said:
NO!!! You are wrong!

An amnesty just means they won't prosecute you for having one, yet... In the meanwhile, you can not use, sell or buy any of these rifles as they are prohibited in the FRT.

The ONLY solution to this whole matter is to see the Firearms Act rescinded & replaced with common sense legislation that respects the rights of Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly. And it MUST be done BEFORE the next election. NO COMPROMISE!

Write your MP, the Ministers of Public Safety and Justice as well as the Prime Minister!

Cheers
Jay
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well said
 
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