Ha-ha. And I would always ask Ratnik when I'm in doubt! He is my teacher, he made the sniper list, and it was tremendous task performed over the years! Hopefully he'll soon publish his research on regular rifles serials too.
svt 40 sniper price check
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Ha-ha. And I would always ask Ratnik when I'm in doubt! He is my teacher, he made the sniper list, and it was tremendous task performed over the years! Hopefully he'll soon publish his research on regular rifles serials too.
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That would be awesome
Elaborate. Present facts rather than your final conclusion. Please. Specifically what is not correct on Ratnik's sniper list. Or this argument leads to nothing.
Yes, it was created by me.
It can be checked very simple. We can discuss, argue about notches - are they original, when they were made. Currently fakes are so well, that under certain circumstances it's impossible to verify originality. But if you will take ANY original mount (museums, relic, private collections), serial on it will fit to this list. Currently nobody created perfect fake, original mounts can be verified easily. This is related to 1941, in 1942 letter prefix was not stamped on it. Letter prefix\serial number nowdays are only things that can give 96%+ guarantee in 1941, and little less in 1942.
Currently I had over 150 pictures of snper SVT and mounts, overall over 3000 serials of all SVT's (1700+ of them are 1941\1942 Tula). You just mark sniper serial in totall list, and get the result.
And don't be surpised, nowdays fakes can came from the crate.
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I don't believe this at all !
Saying that Ratnik (it has to be someone else) cannot recognized real snipers among your rifles and called your homemade notch, real ones sounds like free bashing to me.
Why don't you just put detailed pics of your 6 snipers and let the whole community participate in your quizz ?
Im a beginner in this whole red rifles world and I bet with you, that I will separate the reals from the fakes that you own hands down.
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I saw real snipers been advertised on their web site one or two years ago with detailed pics.
Now they are too busy to put on sale what they have in stock ?
Make sense lol
Well, just notch is not enough, there are some fake notches perfectly done, so one need to looks at other things too. You make pics from certain angles and anybody could be fooled with fake notch. But make good zoom pictures from all possible angles or let me see notch in person and I can tell if it is authentic.
They aren't short staffed at all. They do have a bunch of Podolsk in the back and at least 4 legitimate snipers. They just have a weird business model and they seem to strongly favour regulars and local customers. Once you actually become a regular customer and they start to know you, they treat you very well. When I went in their last time they had a few things that they just had to show me from the back and I walked out a mucher poorer man lol.
I don't think I'll bother with a SVT-40 sniper though. There is the issue of reproduction mounts destroying your notch and real mounts being ridiculously expensive. Combine that with actual legitimate SVT-40 PU scopes being harder to find and it's not worth the headache. The amount of fakes out their puts me off as well.
Speaking about fakes, you can always switch to collecting nazi stuff, should be no fakes at all, eh?
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I'm actually surprised we don't see fake 1945 dated SVT's - of course, those of us who need and or have one, know what the correct letter prefix will be on those....
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It is a much more specialized market for the 1945 SVT-40s. Most people who want them are well aware of what they should look like. It is also much easier to file a notch into a SVT-40 and claim it is a sniper rifle as people seem to jump on things that have the word sniper in them with out much knowledge on what they should look like.
DJdeadlyDALEK
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True, but scam artists would get more money if they could fake '45's
to bp2626,
I saw this 4 ex-snipers it was more like 7 then at lever arms few weeks back but none of their numbers were within Ratnics sniper list. So I'm thinking either lever snipers are not real or that list is fake. I dealt with lever arms since the 80s, they are AAA rating for me. I have to say the lever snipers are real and that list smells suspicious to me.
I saw this 4 ex-snipers it was more like 7 then at lever arms few weeks back but none of their numbers were within Ratnics sniper list. So I'm thinking either lever snipers are not real or that list is fake. I dealt with lever arms since the 80s, they are AAA rating for me. I have to say the lever snipers are real and that list smells suspicious to me.
If you're a good customer they are AAA rating for sure. However, they don't claim to be military surplus experts and they have labeled clearly refurbished TT-33s and SKS as non-refurbished by mistake . So, be careful when you buy anything non-refurbished from them. 90% of the time it's legitimate but you get the odd refurb as they don't disassemble any rifles for inspection and they don't notice shellac in stampings and things of that nature. I personally am a happy customer.
Ratnik is one of the most knowledgeable collectors / researchers I have ever spoken with and he has been an invaluable resource for me. I consider him a friend at this point and I would trust anything he publishes. Is he right 100% of the time? No, he's only human, but he is a smart guy. He admits though that there are snipers that don't fall within the ranges he published. Having said that, if the serial number isn't on his list, I wouldn't buy it.
I admit though, I am not an expert in SVT-40 snipers and my opinion of authentic vs. forged is worthless. Horilka and Ratnik are the ones to talk to about that.
Speaking about fakes, you can always switch to collecting nazi stuff, should be no fakes at all, eh?
Hahaha. You shouldn't joke about it, with the fake [SA] stamps and SVT-40 sniper notches we are starting to climb the forgery mountain and nobody wants that!
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Bottom line is I've been told couple of days ago 1941 sniper (authentic) on EE went for $800 very fast. They don't make them anymore, eh?
And now there is an inflow of fakes and the more of them we see the easier it will be to find the source of forgery, there are already some quite interesting conclusions can be made. Those who fake or sell (intentionally and knowingly) faked snipers would be highly interested in discrediting Ratnik's sniper list or his reputations. Way to go. Any collector who dealt with him, any collector who learned a lot about SVT could understands this list and see why it is legit.
I'm openly offering my help to anybody who has any doubt in his sniper or wanting to assess one before buying. I've been doing it for quite a while anyway, lol. A lot of ppl helped me here and that's my "thank you" to the community and
to those who destroy the history for the profit
And now there is an inflow of fakes and the more of them we see the easier it will be to find the source of forgery, there are already some quite interesting conclusions can be made. Those who fake or sell (intentionally and knowingly) faked snipers would be highly interested in discrediting Ratnik's sniper list or his reputations. Way to go. Any collector who dealt with him, any collector who learned a lot about SVT could understands this list and see why it is legit.
I'm openly offering my help to anybody who has any doubt in his sniper or wanting to assess one before buying. I've been doing it for quite a while anyway, lol. A lot of ppl helped me here and that's my "thank you" to the community and
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This is email to Tula arms factory guys drop them a line and ask if there was sniper list or snipers had special numbers. Please do, you will probably get the same answer I did. Till then to Ratnik and Horilka prove that list is real otherwise in a legal terms it is heresy nothing else.
Tula email
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Tula email
toz-sao@yandex.ru
