Svt rifles

Status
Not open for further replies.
can you blame the guy ! if people were to take runs at me (like what was happening on the forum), i woulda yanked them off the market long ago... what has happened is " legit " buyers are now squeezed out over the gripes of a few .. abit put off here as i was just about set on one of those snipers

sometimes People should just calm down a little ... !
 
I did want to buy SVT with the sniper notch.... instead of telling us that it had it, it was sold in bulk overseas...

Don't trust what we post, don't trust our warranty, don't trust our almost 30 year repuation, that way you saved over $1,100.oo good move
John
 
No we are not open on week ends, you are right.... However we do have an automated system which posts all order placed by our customers 24/7,
John


You posted a pic of a gun that wasn't a sniper in your sniper advert. We just wanted to be sure.

Well like he said they have an automated system that is 24/7 right .:rolleyes:
These so called snipers were available to order on there web site all weekend right. :rolleyes:
I'm sure one of the guys whining about those of us that wanted confirmation before we order MUST HAVE ordered one while they were listed right ? :rolleyes:
Guess we will see them posting pic's of their new Marstar SVT sniper as soon as they get it right .:rolleyes:
ha:
 
Wow, quite an exciting thread. I sorta feel like my post will get no attention without bold font...
I like Marstar, and got some nifty stuff from them. I think I'll buy some more stuff, even if it doesn't come with a notch. Can I get a notch put on a Lee Enfield? It didn't come with one, and after all this talk, I feel left out... I'll put one on when I get home...
 
No we are not open on week ends, you are right.... However we do have an automated system which posts all order placed by our customers 24/7, I suppose you already know this

I noticed but I am not wealthy enough to tie up $500 for a month or two while rifles get shipped back & forth at my expense after getting an svt with the appropriate prefix but no notch.

"great experience & knowledge in the business end of the process & very little in the minutiae of the firearms themselves"

How the hell do you think we got to what were, by not knowing anything ?

On the practical knowledge side my friend I will defend myself at whatever level you wish.... I am qualified as an expert witness in Canada up the Supreme Court of Canada.... I am qualified in several States in the US as an expert witness.... I have prepared and assisted in numerous technical briefs for many levels of various governments.... I have prepared briefs in several major crime cases, both here and in the US....

I am not disputing your qualifications in the least. That being said, you did claim that a German proof house marking on a 91/30 sniper was an indication that it had been re-arsenaled in Austria & that a vopo refurb g43 was in "absolutely original condition". Nobody knows everything & even the most earnest claim needs to be verified.

Strange that you say we are not "milsurp enthusiasts. " why then were we chosen by the Yugoslav Government in 1984 as the exclusive exporter of all military surplus from that country, why did Nato and the UN mandate Marstar to clean the front lines after the cease fire in the first Bosnean war ?? Must be because of our lack of knowledge....

Well since you asked... I would guess in the first part that Marstar had the connections & placed the higher bid & in the second Marstar had an established relationship with the people involved, the ability to move a fair amount product out of a volatile region with a minimum of fuss & the liquid capital. I don't see why Nato or the UN would feel a knowledge of milsurps would be an asset. You don't have to have an intimate knowledge of a product to be successful at buying & selling. I will say that Marstar's knowledge of the Yugoslav firearms is beyond reproach.

I really find it strange that out of blue you have determined all these issues and claim to have all the knowledge we don't have.... At the moment we are working on several foreign deals, perhaps you would consider doing some work for us, surely you complete and varied knowledge will serve you well....
I look forward to receiving your resume

I am no expert but I know some stuff, up to & including using Google. Do you really think you could use a 42 yr old asthmatic mechanic with bad knees?
John


I think Marstar has nice stuff at decent prices & a warranty you can't beat but when it come to comments like "All original matching serial numbers" & "Original sniper" ( form any dealer not just Marstar), I need pics before I expend my very limited resources. These will be my last comments on this matter.
 
Another great thread. I learned something about sniper rifles anyway.

Me too.

You posted a pic of a gun that wasn't a sniper in your sniper advert. We just wanted to be sure.

I have to admit that I do go by the rule that there are no such things as stupid questions.
However when factoring the timing of this question, I believe it has out lived its usefulness.
d:h:
 
i GET ANNOYED WHEN PEOPLE MAKE IRRESPONSIBLE AND ILL-INFORMED STATEMENTS
If you are so convinced of your statement then lets make a deal, I'm certain you support either the CSSA or the NFA, or both.... Then how about a small wager ? You come to our office and I will prove that we had the guns, sold some and still have some of the shipment.
If I prove that we had the snipers then you pay the group of your choice $1000. if I can't prove it I will pay the donation.... Do we have a deal ?
Looking forward to working out a deal with you
John

I'll call you on that, if we make the terms fair (I'll make it real easy for you). No one is going to drive out to the remote town of Vankleek Hill in North Eastern Ontario. I'll put $100 towards NFA/CSSA in Marstar's name if you prove me wrong. You took some time to post pictures on Facebook of your recent haul, you can take a minute or two to pull some rifles out of a crate and photograph them.

You've basically pissed on everyone in this thread who has questioned you, we have the right to, we're your potential customers. We may have to pay for shipping to return the rifle to you, that means we're out of pocket anywhere from $20-50. That doesn't warrant some questioning? This is the kind of attitude we get instead:

While the Canadian "experts" complained, #####ed, accused us, etc, etc, an off shore dealer saw an excellent opportunity and acted....

Here is your ad for a regular SVT:

svt1.jpg


Here is your ad for a "sniper" SVT:

svtsniper.jpg


You claim to be the one true source of knowledge, a man who knows everything because he's been in the trade for 30 years, "how dare we question your authority!?". Then why, of all things, would you market a common SVT as a sniper SPECIFICALLY because it has rails. To add further confusion to the mix:

Yes we are aware of that, our mistake was not putting up specific detailed pictures, however that is now irrelevant as an off shore dealer picked them all up. Thank you for your interest.

But you did... see above.

Some had the "notch" some did not, ALL had the correct serial number prefixes indicating sniper versions.

Can you source this information, that unnotched SVT's were used as sniper rifles in battle at any point during the war on the eastern front? I can't, and my 1941 Podolsk with rails certainly wasn't a sniper rifle. You also failed to address this knowledgable fellows very informative work:

Greetings to all!
I'm making a research about SVT sniper rifles. And I think this board is a right place to gather additional information about sniper rifle serials.
As many of you know, SVT sniper rifles were officially produced at plant #314 in Tula (March-September 1941), and at plant #314 in Mednogorsk (March - October 1942).
All sniper rifles were groupped in letter prefixes. But approach to SVT sniper rifles production in 1941 and 1942 was a different.
1941 snipers mostly were marked with C mark at the right side of the reciever. But some correct sniper rifles are missing this C mark.
All 1941 snipers had numeric prefixes less than xx 2000. Regular rifles can have sniper prefixes, but numeric prefix will be higher than 2000. There is one exception - in one known sniper prefix, НБ, few regular rifles are known with numeric prefix less than 2000. I don't know why this happened, but I have one assumption. I have another research about conformity of letter prefix and production month, and presumably НБ prefix rifles were produced at the beginning of July, just after war beginning, and it could cause some problems
Barrels for 1941 sniper rifles were produced separately. Mounts were attached to rifle at the factory, and stamped with full rifle serial number
1942 snipers are also grouped in prefixes, but regular and sniper rifles are mixed randomly in one prefix. All 1942 snipers don't had C proofmark at the right side of the receiver. There was no separate production of sniper barrels in 1942, when plant #314 was located in Mednogorsk. Best barrels were selected and used at sniper rifles. 1942 mounts were stamped only with numeric prefix.

This is going beyond just a "missed deal". You are actively insulting your customer base's intelligence, all for something that was such a simple mistake/solution.

I'd like to see a timestamped picture of your authentic sniper SVT rifles, you said you had 50 but shipped some of them, yet these are all sniper rifles. How does taking a picture of 15-20 of them sound? When that happens, I'll shut my big "complaining, #####y, know-nothing" gob, make a public apology, kiss your ass, and donate $100 towards a firearms organization of your choice - on one condition - you admit the advertising for these rifles was wrong from the start.
 
Last edited:
I am not trying to be rude, but what would have happened if I ordered one of these and you decided to sell the lot to another party.
 
DON KAEL;
This is getting ridiculous indeed....

"you can take a minute or two to pull some rifles out of a crate and photograph them."
The rifle rifles we sold out of Canada are wrapped and crated ready to leave, now we are expected to open the shipment ,which leaves today or tomorrow, so we can satisfy your curiosity ?

"We may have to pay for shipping to return the rifle to you,that means we're out of pocket anywhere from $20-50."
Why does this keep popping up, our warranty is clear, if not satisfied or the item is not what you expected, not as described, whatever, we pay the shipping, so what is the issue exactly ?? We are well known to have the best warranty policy in Canada, so what are the issues ??

" This is the kind of attitude we get instead:"
I simply stated my observations, it simply was a case of first come, first served....

You quote our ad and point (red arrow) to the statement about the rails, not certain I understand what you are trying to say here ??

"You claim to be the one true source of knowledge, a man who knows everything because he's been in the trade for 30 years, ""
Tis statement hardly merits comment, other than being completely ridiculous....

"Yes we are aware of that, our mistake was not putting up specific detailed pictures"
Because of pressure from CGN I asked our photographer to get some pictures up ASAP, YES I freely admit we should have posted more detail pictures, what more can I say.... ??

I cannot understand the issues here, I admit the description was not complete, I admit we should have posted more pictures.... But this is history can we move on ?
John
 
I am not trying to be rude, but what would have happened if I ordered one of these and you decided to sell the lot to another party.

ALL orders placed on line and by phone go into the system and are assigned an order number. That way the orders are filled in sequence according to date and time....
John
 
"Yes we are aware of that, our mistake was not putting up specific detailed pictures"Because of pressure from CGN I asked our photographer to get some pictures up ASAP, YES I freely admit we should have posted more detail pictures, what more can I say.... ??

Nothing more :p that's alls you needed to say , that would have save alot of page's :p

I know if you had a picture up I would have pick one up! To bad there sold overseas :/ I just didn't have the disposable income to risk on a maiby not sniper svt.... as they say " trust but verify"
 
Nothing more :p that's alls you needed to say , that would have save alot of page's :p

I know if you had a picture up I would have pick one up! To bad there sold overseas :/ I just didn't have the disposable income to risk on a maiby not sniper svt.... as they say " trust but verify"

You DO NOT risk anything at Marstar, please read about our warranty policy
John
 
You DO NOT risk anything at Marstar, please read about our warranty policy
John

You demand that we trust you but refuse to prove your right. I get it ok you warranty your product, that's really nice! Some of us just wanted to know beforehand cause we don't want to go true the hassle of buying getting a letdown then returning a rifle.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom