Swedish Mauser - What to do?

Swedish Mausers make good sporters. I converted a beat up M38 into a sporter. You have to scallop out the bent bolt handle to clear the scope or use high rings. I preferred the lower scope mount and scalloped the bolt handle. I got a nice peice of walnut for cheap and carved it myself for a stock. At this point, it has no working safety. The original safety doesn't clear the low mounted scope. 1/8 turn aftermarket safeties are available though. Also, as you can see, I haven't blued or parkerized the barreled action yet. I'm leaning to painting with Armacoat and will probably do this shortly. With good handloads, it's a tack driver. For comparison, I have also a couple of pics together with an original M38.

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How many digits in the serial number? If it is 5 it was originally a M94 carbine. If it is 6 it was originally a M96.

Thanks for the info Woodbeef. 5 digits. That together with the 18" barrel that does not appear to have been chopped suggest that it is indeed an M94 Carbine.

So, does that mean the Tradex barrels (or Striker's) will not fit this action, or are the threads the same? Will a barrel for an M38 fit this action? What is the essential difference between an M94 and an M96? Also, will Striker's stock match up to this action?

Rifledude, I like what you did there. Very nice. Thanks for the info re. altering the bent bolt handle. Makes sense.

I've been cleaning the barrel. Lots of copper to remove. Bore appears to be in pretty good shape.
 
On the rifles I have, the 96 based rifles have a much longer leade than the 38 based rifles. Dont know about the 94, but I would suspect it would be the same as the 96. The Tradex barrels should be 38 spec, potentially offering better accuracy.
BTW - You may get lucky with the Tradex barrels ie no headspace adjustment needed. I dont have direct experience in this matter - a buddy of mine made this claim. Perhaps some others can confirm...
The alternative is to turn the steps off the existing barrel - a common mod. I guess the decision rides upon whether an 18 in barrel suits your target shooting needs.
 
-Rifledude...very impressive looking bit 'o' iron! I have to suggest the modesty conveyed with the quote "I got a nice peice of walnut for cheap and carved it myself for a stock"is nice...if it were me:
"took a rough, chunk 'o' nature, whittleded it into the glory you see before you"...it is a beautiful looking stock
 
I fixed up an M38 swede once, then I bought a Tikka in 6.5x55 and was much happier. I sold the swede for a fraction of what I had into it.
Are you trying to get us guys that have sunk way to much into building our Swedes hit with a cast iron frying pan?? :eek:
 
Got the stock from Striker....

Picked up the free stock from Striker today. Thanks a lot Striker.

I bedded the barreled action into the stock with epoxy. I just finished trimming up some of the overflow and now I"ll leave it alone to finish hardening.

It won't be long until I'm able to try some loads.
 
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Picked up the free stock from Striker today. Thanks a lot Striker.

I bedded the barreled action into the stock with epoxy. I just finished trimming up some of the overflow and now I"ll leave it alone to finish hardening.

It won't be long until I'm able to try some loads.
good luck..I'll get you that recipe today from my buddy..:)
 
Never again.....

Never again will I fire handloads made by somebody else.

Yesterday I decided to take the rifle for a walk in the woods and get the receiver sight roughly adjusted so it would be close when I take it to the range.

Ok, Ok, - I admit it, I just wanted to shoot the darn thing! It was just sitting there saying 'try me out'.

When I was given the box of parts with no stock years ago it came with a partial box of handloads. The box even has a label that says '140 bullet, 40 grains 4831'. It doesn't specify which 4831 but after consulting my Nosler manual I saw that the starting load for a 140gn bullet with IMR 4831 is 40.5gn and for H4831 it is 43.0gn, so 40 grains of either should be safe enough.

Now I know it's not wise to fire somebody else's loads, especially an unknown person. You have no control whatsoever of what you are loading into that chamber and pulling the trigger on. I've never done it in the past. I've gotten handloads that came with another gun that I bought and I disassembled them.

In this case however, since the box was labeled with a safe load, there were only 7 rounds left in the box (no empties though) and the gun was in one piece (and I was really keen to fire this thing) I presumed that these loads were likely safe enough. So I pulled a bullet, made sure it was 140 grains and weighed the powder - yep, 40.0 grains right on. The powder looked more or less like IMR 4831 to me. So I was convinced that I had six remaining very mild 6.5x55 rounds to try out.

So on with the snow shoes and up the mountain I go. Fired a shot at a dark spot on a big old dead maple. Bolt lift was a little stiff but no problem. For some reason I didn't examine the fired case, which is something I almost always do. Fired a second shot and the bolt lift was 'quite' stiff.

With both fired cases the primers were gone (later found in the magazine), the primer pockets were enlarged, case head metal had extruded into the ejector slot and the headstamp was partially flattened out.

I don't know what was in those loads for powder but it was 40.0 grains of something other than 4831...

...and who says an M94 can't handle a hot load....no gas escaped, no ill effects. Those are the hottest loads I've ever fired by far.

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Later that afternoon I loaded 43.0 grains of H4831 and got normal looking cases and easy extraction so I'm sure it's not a problem with the gun.

Never again.

Here it is bedded into the stock that Striker gave to me.

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If it shoots well enough as is I'll pretty it up and keep it. If not, well then I guess I'll have to decide what to do.


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let that be a lesson

I have gone skydiving, and in my day (1970) sport parachutists did pack their own, even for your first jump. Who else could you trust? The prep course was almost all how to pack a chute and very little about jumping. But the military and aerobatic pilots wear chutes someone else packed AFAIK.
 
94 swede

That 94 swede brings back some familiar memories. I bought one (a number mismatch) and put on a sporter stock and had it drilled and tapped. The bore seemed to be like new until I hit the range. When sighting in at 25 yards, the bullets keyholed and the brass came out very dark and sooty. Didn't figure out till later that it was a 7x57 Mauser 94! My buddy had picked up a 6.5 Nosler 140 grain and dropped it down the barrel with no resistance - I just went with what the verifier had said at the time. Apparently 3000 swedes had been rebarreled in the 50's for a contract with some South American country that never happed so they were surplused. After some 7x57 through it, it was a tackdriver. I think a fellow gunnutter in Alberta has it. I miss that little rifle - it was short and handy. I've got a similar '96 project about to take place soon - your pics and details have been great.
 
3screws,

Your story....it reminds me of a story.....

My good friend has a sweet little BRNO in 8x57. It came with a house that his dad bought and was accompanied by a partial box of 7x57 ammunition.

His dad used to take the odd shot at a coyote in the meadow behind the house but could never hit anything for some reason...

He eventually gave it to Sonny Boy (my buddy) to see if we could get it to shoot. "Such a shame" he said, "a pretty rifle like that and it won't shoot for s**t..."

It really makes me wonder how many tumbling 7mm bullets hit that meadow over the years after rattling their way down that 8mm bore. Between my friend's dad and the previous owner, who knows? Not much wonder the guy left the rifle and box of 7x57 in a closet when he sold the place.

It's a very nice BRNO with double set triggers in great condition. Oh, and, yeah, it shoots 8mm bullets very well ; )

I'm planning to take the Swede out tomorrow and try it on target. If the results aren't too hard on my character I'll post some photos.
 
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I have a 1910 Carl Gustaf Sporterized 6.5 x 55 swedish mauser. And i love it. Low recoil, excellent accuracy. I just started to hand load my own ammo and haven't reached its full potential yet and still can put a 5 shot group in an inch or less. I shoot 140 gr Nosler Partitions with RL22. 42.5 grains. thats the starting weight.
 
Swedish Mausers make good sporters. I converted a beat up M38 into a sporter. You have to scallop out the bent bolt handle to clear the scope or use high rings. I preferred the lower scope mount and scalloped the bolt handle. I got a nice peice of walnut for cheap and carved it myself for a stock. At this point, it has no working safety. The original safety doesn't clear the low mounted scope. 1/8 turn aftermarket safeties are available though. Also, as you can see, I haven't blued or parkerized the barreled action yet. I'm leaning to painting with Armacoat and will probably do this shortly. With good handloads, it's a tack driver. For comparison, I have also a couple of pics together with an original M38.

M38_sporter_right_side.jpg


M38_sport_mil_detail.jpg


M38_sporter_and_MilSurp.jpg

Thats a beautifull looking rifle you have there, Just wondering where can you get a stock like that??
 
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