Swiss Arms addicts sound off

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Here it is, another Swiss Arms praise thread. I am addicted to these rifles, and have so many in the safe that I don't think my credit line will ever stop smoking. It is one of the few uber-expensive guns where, when you handle one, you say to yourself: "wow, that's worth the money." Everyone needs to try one. :cool:

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People don't realize how good a gun they actually are. They smoke everything else.

"But, but, the AR is more ergonomic!"

Yeah, well, so is your mom.
 
Well I only have 1 Classic green, but if I add my 3 K31 rifles and 2 Swiss Lugers as well as 1 officer's dagger, holsters for the lugers, cleaning kits, stripper clips, all the Swiss GP11 and GP90 ammunition, yup Swiss flu is an expensive disease:p
 
Love them, waiting for the new improved CQB to show up. The money set aside is burning a hole in my pocket though ...must resist. Want the SAPR too :)
As Sticker mentioned I have 3x k-31's each in a different role, ie Scoped, Diopter, opensight and a K-11.
 
The 14.3" is absolutely amazing. Of the SA rifles, I think it has the best overall handling characteristics. Built like a tank, and accurate to boot. The only downfalls:

price --- get a better job
weight --- get thee to the gym
 
Had one, sold it.
Hk, had one, sold it.
AR,,,, now these can shoot.

Kept it.
Swiss and HK, really cool to look at and play with but once the novelty wears off they still don't shoot real well. I don't care if they ALMOST shoot an inch at 100 I want the holes to touch.

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Ice-Pick said:
Had one, sold it.
Hk, had one, sold it.
AR,,,, now these can shoot.

Kept it.
Swiss and HK, really cool to look at and play with but once the novelty wears off they still don't shoot real well. I don't care if they ALMOST shoot an inch at 100 I want the holes to touch.
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The Swiss Arms is a service rifle that can achieve match performance. The HK is a sporterized HBAR variant of the G36. Your AR is obviously heavily optimized for sportive shooting. Not really a valid comparison.
 
cjs said:
Yes, that is an apples to orange comparison. Your AR is not a stock rifle but has been heavily customized. Great looking AR though.
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As far as accuracy goes though why can't you compare the rifles straight out? I know it is hard or maybe impossible to find a match barrel for the swiss arms but then maybe that is the best accuracy the rifle can obtain in Canada. If a straight accuracy comparison is not your thing what about 'dollars vs. accuracy'?

So I think its a perfectly fair comparison if you are at comparing guns for use at the range or any shooting competition. If you wanted to talk about coyote shooting then you obviously cannot compare the AR though.
 
Swiss Arms and ARs in general can not be compared, two completely different actions, two completely fifferent categories. The Swiss Arms CQB, Carbine or Rifle will beat any similar lenghted ARs all the time, it's not comparable.
Yeah Yeah the AR is a very good platform to upgrate to match accuracy, but what the hell a stock average 20" AR can't even beat a SA CQB on the field, not only in terms of accuracy.
Yeah it's very expensive, but building an AR to be comparable to a stock SA, it's going to cost much more $, especially in this time where gun prices exploded. They are worth the money and the addiction is well worth it, a non-restricted semi-auto SA is much more polyvalent than a restricted AR.
 
The standard Swiss Arms "Classic Green" or "Black Special", etc...are extremely accurate service rifles. When put up against any standard Colt 6920 or 6921, HK G-36, or similar civilian/service rifles shooting comparable ammo, the Swiss Arms will invariably prove the more accurate rifle.

Putting a stock service rifle up against a customize dedicated target/varmint rifle with bull barrel, aftermarket trigger and having been accurized really isn't that fair of a comparison. Will such an AR-15 outshoot the Swiss Arms? I would be very surprised if it did not! As Koalorka posted, a more fair comparison would be to compare the Swiss Arms Sniper Rifle variant with the heavy barrel AR. A more fair comparison to be sure, but again, dependant upon just how much customization and accurizing the AR has undergone, as the Swiss Arms, is still a factory rifle.

I own multiple examples of both Swiss Arms and AR-15s. Love both, but I'd bet my life on the Swiss Arms moreso than the AR. I've yet to find an ammo type that the Swiss Arms won't digest and have yet to encounter a stoppage, FTF, FTE. Not the case with my ARs and I've owned/shot extensively Colt, Armalite, Bushmaster, DPMS and currently own several Colt, LMT, STAG and one ATRS rifles. I still love my ARs and they are great rifles, but it is hard to beat the Swiss bang sticks straight up!:)
 
I guess it depends on what you buy/shoot a rifle for. Except to sight my gun in, I never bench shoot for tight groups. I buy a rifle for reliability, durability, and accuracy. The Swiss and the other guns I own offer all three, but are not match rifles, nor do I want them to be.
 
X-man said:
I've yet to find an ammo type that the Swiss Arms won't digest and have yet to encounter a stoppage, FTF, FTE. Not the case with my ARs
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Second that. I have never experienced a single malfuction, ever, with a Swiss Arms rifle. I've had lots of probs with ARs (most of which, to be fair, do get smoothed out over time).
 
UncleWalther said:
Here it is, another Swiss Arms praise thread. I am addicted to these rifles, and have so many in the safe that I don't think my credit line will ever stop smoking. It is one of the few uber-expensive guns where, when you handle one, you say to yourself: "wow, that's worth the money." Everyone needs to try one. :cool:

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so am I.

and by the way: they can but put on safe even if the hammer is down.

Sorry, but when I was a Sgt in a basic training unit we'd always kicked but when recruits didn't put their rifle on safe.

Every time I see a SA-rifle not on safe I get this weird feeling.

Nice gun though ;)
 
z1bam said:
As far as accuracy goes though why can't you compare the rifles straight out? I know it is hard or maybe impossible to find a match barrel for the swiss arms but then maybe that is the best accuracy the rifle can obtain in Canada. If a straight accuracy comparison is not your thing what about 'dollars vs. accuracy'?

So I think its a perfectly fair comparison if you are at comparing guns for use at the range or any shooting competition. If you wanted to talk about coyote shooting then you obviously cannot compare the AR though.
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In a "Swiss Arms Addicts sound Off" thread, it seems a bit far fetched to compare a heavily customized dream system non-stock AR to a stock Swiss Arms :)

If we were talking in a dollars vs accuracy thread then I can see this kind of debate having relevance.
 
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