Swiss Arms Black Special - RCMP Review???

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P&D has two restricted Swiss arms in stock. A 14.3" black special and a 17.9" classic green. You could pick up on of those and have it re-barreled to non restricted with an 18.6" barrel. That's what I've got and I love it:

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Hmmmmm and what about this vs the sg540 are they basically the same is the Swiss better. ? Been on the fence for a while about this
 
I'm not sure why you guys are directing your focus on the RCMP - their report will (and l believe has) go to the Ministry of Public Safety Canada - who may do as recommended by the RCs...or something different.
 
Until there is some decision made public I would think they are still investigating.
The deadline was for the importer and manufacturer to provide evidence and has nothing to do with how long they have to come to a conclusion. Nothing moves quickly in that office. Look how long they drag their feet giving an FRT for a new black rifle.
There is nothing anywhere that says they have a certain amount of time to come to a decision.
When new imports start showing up at retailers then we can relax.
There is probably a reason there are no new ones on the shelves yet. Because they know it's still unresolved and don't want to end up with a bunch of rifles in stock that they can't sell.
 
I could see them just not saying anything if they were proven wrong, but I think it would show by dealers starting to sell them again. As it stands right now I think they are still reviewing their decision, probably dragging out their response as long as possible. I have a feeling though if the decision was to reclassify it that we would have heard it by now, as I think they would be fast to jump on that. As tempted as I am to buy one, I can't justify spending that money with that lingering overhead. I know all guns are at risk of being taken away, but most aren't being actively reviewed right now.
 
If they did reclassify I would think that they are trying to figure out a way to locate all (or at least a large majority of) the rifles before they go public. With some of them being NR, they need to figure out a solid method before any announcement is made.
 
Brian46 said:
If they did reclassify I would think that they are trying to figure out a way to locate all (or at least a large majority of) the rifles before they go public. With some of them being NR, they need to figure out a solid method before any announcement is made.
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Why would they need to do that? They don't need to locate any of them. It would be the owners responsibility to come forward and turn them in. Get caught with them after the grace period they would likely give and you would be charged with possession of a prohibited firearm. You would be risking having all your firearms confiscated and possible jail time.
It would be as simple as sending out a letter to every PAL holder in Canada or sending a notice with every PAL renewal. It would take a few years but it would be easy for them to do.
Claiming you didn't know would not get you out of trouble as ignorance is no excuse for the law. If it were every criminal caught for any crime would just say they didn't know it was illegal.

I think the delay in announcing a decision has nothing to do with anything other than they take forever to do anything. Issue a new FRT? Up to 3 years in some cases? They don't care how long things take or how it inconveniences us.
We need to keep writing letters and hope that we can pressure someone in government to step in and straighten this out.
 
merc said:
In the past when guns have been reclassified do they typically do a buy back? or do you just surrender it and take the loss?
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You register your now restricted or prohibited firearm if you have the credentials i.e. RPAL. You may get a new 12(x) classification if prohibited and you probably won't ever get to shoot that rifle again.

I don't remember any buybacks in Ontario.
 
cr5 said:
Nothing moves quickly in that office. Look how long they drag their feet giving an FRT for a new black rifle.
There is nothing anywhere that says they have a certain amount of time to come to a decision.
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There should be some requirement to get things done in a reasonable, timely manner on their end. They are not being asked to evaluate new ground breaking technology that requires years of 'looking into'.
 
cr5 said:
Why would they need to do that? They don't need to locate any of them. It would be the owners responsibility to come forward and turn them in. Get caught with them after the grace period they would likely give and you would be charged with possession of a prohibited firearm. You would be risking having all your firearms confiscated and possible jail time.
It would be as simple as sending out a letter to every PAL holder in Canada or sending a notice with every PAL renewal. It would take a few years but it would be easy for them to do.
Claiming you didn't know would not get you out of trouble as ignorance is no excuse for the law. If it were every criminal caught for any crime would just say they didn't know it was illegal.

I think the delay in announcing a decision has nothing to do with anything other than they take forever to do anything. Issue a new FRT? Up to 3 years in some cases? They don't care how long things take or how it inconveniences us.
We need to keep writing letters and hope that we can pressure someone in government to step in and straighten this out.
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without proof of notification of a status change on their end, how would a criminal charge stick?. If you are putting the blame on the gun owner for not knowing, what do you suggest, call the cfc daily to check if there has been a status change on any of your firearms? You may be on to something if you want the system to crash.
 
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