T C Encore
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leveractionjunkie
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- Kamloops, BC
Thanks for sharing Huntsman, and others. those are respectable groups for sure.
leveractionjunkie
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Has anyone been importing barrells from BullBerry etc? How difficult would it be?
Riflesmith
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- On The Line
I haven't purchased one of their barrels yet but have bought 3 stock sets. I had Clay at Prophet bring them in and it was absolutely no problem. Bullberry folks have been terrific as well by the way.
leveractionjunkie
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- Kamloops, BC
Interesting Riflesmith I think that idea probably would work now that you mention it.
I have been developing a serious small caliber/varmint rifle/ minor wildcat obsession over the last couple years. One tuned action with multiple barrels might be just the ticket I'm looking for
I have been developing a serious small caliber/varmint rifle/ minor wildcat obsession over the last couple years. One tuned action with multiple barrels might be just the ticket I'm looking for
The 28"'long barrels of the Prohunter were never required in the first place. Just Silly to put such a long tube on a single shot that is not fundementally designed as a target rifle! 24-26" would
Make a Big difference in handleing characteristics as well.
The concept of Longer barrels Having more dramatic deflection isnt new.
Longer barrels Are just as Capable of Accuracy. The deflection is more noticable when the barrel is longer, and measured the way
David White explained it.
If the barrel was cut off to 20", and you had a longer pencil to reach that piece of paper he described, we would likely see just as big of a flex pattern.
I tend to think that the loose spots he describes are night and day the biggest problem. This kind of varience can cause severe flucutations in standard deviations, powder burning characteristics, etc. This would make it very hard to tune an accurate load! By trimming off 5" of barrel you tend to reduce the chance of the bullet encountering a "potential" loose spot. Therefore Shortening the barrel from that standpoint would be my first step as well.
The center hindge pin fit is also very important! If its loose even by a couple of thousandths of a inch, that translates in a terrible side to side sloppy movement at the barrel muzzle! Not to mention a terrible feel to the rifle as a hunter carries it! Been there/experienced that.
The hinged single Shot action presents many challenges to achieve a high degree Of precsion! There are many more things that can be done to improve the accuracy! The problem is that T/C made this a convienient style of switch barrel rifle. This presents a massive challenge for them to be able to produce an accurate product that can fit on "your", "my", or anyones action and still shoot accurately. With that said, I still love them.
Make a Big difference in handleing characteristics as well.
The concept of Longer barrels Having more dramatic deflection isnt new.
Longer barrels Are just as Capable of Accuracy. The deflection is more noticable when the barrel is longer, and measured the way
David White explained it.
If the barrel was cut off to 20", and you had a longer pencil to reach that piece of paper he described, we would likely see just as big of a flex pattern.
I tend to think that the loose spots he describes are night and day the biggest problem. This kind of varience can cause severe flucutations in standard deviations, powder burning characteristics, etc. This would make it very hard to tune an accurate load! By trimming off 5" of barrel you tend to reduce the chance of the bullet encountering a "potential" loose spot. Therefore Shortening the barrel from that standpoint would be my first step as well.
The center hindge pin fit is also very important! If its loose even by a couple of thousandths of a inch, that translates in a terrible side to side sloppy movement at the barrel muzzle! Not to mention a terrible feel to the rifle as a hunter carries it! Been there/experienced that.
The hinged single Shot action presents many challenges to achieve a high degree Of precsion! There are many more things that can be done to improve the accuracy! The problem is that T/C made this a convienient style of switch barrel rifle. This presents a massive challenge for them to be able to produce an accurate product that can fit on "your", "my", or anyones action and still shoot accurately. With that said, I still love them.
I am averaging 1" 100 yards 3 shot groups with both my 22" 30-06 and 375H&H barrels I do not expect or require better than that kind of accuracy for this rifle so haven't taken the time to work up better loads.
Now my T/C Contenders are a bit different these are the parent design to the Encore/Prohunters I have had time to work up loads/glass bed the fore ends for most of them my two most accurate combinations are my 21" 223 and 21" 375JDJ they average 1 1/4" - 1 3/4" 300 yard 3 shot groups.
These rifles have potential to be more accurate than most people can shoot them if you take a bit of time and work with them = they are definitely not target grade combo's though.
Now my T/C Contenders are a bit different these are the parent design to the Encore/Prohunters I have had time to work up loads/glass bed the fore ends for most of them my two most accurate combinations are my 21" 223 and 21" 375JDJ they average 1 1/4" - 1 3/4" 300 yard 3 shot groups.
These rifles have potential to be more accurate than most people can shoot them if you take a bit of time and work with them = they are definitely not target grade combo's though.
Mount Sweetness
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Ontario
The accuracy of my .50cal blackpowder barrel is very very impressive. These are great guns.
Mount Sweetness
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Ontario
Yes, I've heard complaints about the stock but to me it comes up to shoulder quick, is very comfortable on my hand, balanced and easy to maneuver. TC nailed it.
Pro Hunter frame, T/C 7RM barrel, walnut off of EBAY 10 years ago, with a slimmed up and re-contoured fore-arm by me.
I had the stocks for 5 or 6 years before I found a rifle frame for a price I was willing to pay..
I'd love to get my hands on the case-coloured frame the custom shop used to do.
The forearm before weigh####chers.
And in bush configuration.
I'm not impressed with the fiddly nature of using a belted mag cartridge with the T/C extractor, so any additional barrels I get will have rimmed cartridges.
Looking to build some custom barrels, using the barrel stubbing method.
I had the stocks for 5 or 6 years before I found a rifle frame for a price I was willing to pay..
I'd love to get my hands on the case-coloured frame the custom shop used to do.
The forearm before weigh####chers.
And in bush configuration.
I'm not impressed with the fiddly nature of using a belted mag cartridge with the T/C extractor, so any additional barrels I get will have rimmed cartridges.
Looking to build some custom barrels, using the barrel stubbing method.
EABCO (E.Arthur Brown Company) had some a few months back. they were all the left overs after the big move...... check them out, they may still have some and you could get someone to import it for you.
just a suggestion.
Ive been trying to get an ENCORE barrel from them...they dont seem to want to talk to a Canadian even though Id be using an importer.
Pro Hunter frame, T/C 7RM barrel, walnut off of EBAY 10 years ago, with a slimmed up and re-contoured fore-arm by me.
I had the stocks for 5 or 6 years before I found a rifle frame for a price I was willing to pay..
I'd love to get my hands on the case-coloured frame the custom shop used to do.
The forearm before weigh####chers.
And in bush configuration.
I'm not impressed with the fiddly nature of using a belted mag cartridge with the T/C extractor, so any additional barrels I get will have rimmed cartridges.
Looking to build some custom barrels, using the barrel stubbing method.
I am doing a 6.5mm-08 AI stub on an H&R SB2 Ultra frame... the smith I approached had not done a stub before, but was intrigued by the process, so he is buying a frame and doing a "guinea pig" custom stub... I will recommend once I test the final product.
I have all the required "technology" to do the stubs myself, but I have other projects to deal with before I start playing with that one. Currently, I'm thinking of doing a 6.5mm Rimmed Gibbs, and a rimmed wildcat based on a shortened 338 WinMag.
There is company down south that makes stubs for T/C's from scratch - "5mmcraig.com" will get you there.
If they can be landed here for less than a "significant" premium, that will be the way to go, rather than jigging up to build a couple stubs.
They show Prophet River as being their Canadian distributor, and "RT" is looking into that.
There is company down south that makes stubs for T/C's from scratch - "5mmcraig.com" will get you there.
If they can be landed here for less than a "significant" premium, that will be the way to go, rather than jigging up to build a couple stubs.
They show Prophet River as being their Canadian distributor, and "RT" is looking into that.
I better pay great heed to your words, friend... you've been around since 2004 and only have 10 posts... these words are pure gold!
By "down South" do you mean state side??? Would that stubbing company be D&T? I am on David's blog and have had conversations with him, but won't be using his service... too much paperwork. I'll await the results from my guy and see how that goes...
