The stub is about shooting an unavailable caliber, not making it shoot better... that is usually a by-product... there are lots of things that can be done to make break action rifles shoot better without stubbing... I have accurized all of mine via trigger jobs, bedding, QD knobs that set torque etc... they can shoot very well indeed. I am doing the stub so that I can shoot .260 AI...
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The stub is about shooting an unavailable caliber, not making it shoot better... that is usually a by-product... there are lots of things that can be done to make break action rifles shoot better without stubbing... I have accurized all of mine via trigger jobs, bedding, QD knobs that set torque etc... they can shoot very well indeed. I am doing the stub so that I can shoot .260 AI...
He talks about accuracy so much because he is selling his services... of course you expect your newly stubbed barrel to be accurate... but if accuracy were the goal of stubbing you would expect to see people stubbing "available" calibers... I've never seen one... as in stubbing a 7mm-08 to a 7mm-08 in a better aftermarket barrel... no, people are stubbing to "unavailable" calibers... I am taking a stock .308 to a 6.5mm-08 AI... I DO expect it to be accurate, but I am doing it to shoot the caliber and would be happy if it were as accurate as my OEM 7mm-08 which I accurized. How many jobs do you think the smith would sell if he said "give me your .308 rifle and several hundred dollars and in four months I will give you back a .308 rifle that MAY be more accurate."
Most companies (H&R and TC included) sell their guns in the calibers that are most popular/requested, they are not stupid and are in the business to make money... so why does nobody stub to one of these popular chamberings? Because if you are doing the stub, you are going to do it in a chambering that is NOT commonly available... you will use a quality barrel of course (Shilen, Krieger etc...) and you WILL expect increased accuracy as a result, but it is all about being unique to the platform... who wouldn't want to shoot a hot niche caliber in their beloved TC or HR... whats not to love about that.
This is news to me, but I am not up on TC culture... but what he would be referring to is using a centerfire frame and firing pin location and an offset stub so that it can function with rimfire calibers... some are discussing this for the new 17 WSM.
I understand the culture = I've been into T/C Contender carbines for almost 20 years now I have three Gen 1 s/s frames, one G2 s/s frame + 11 Contender carbine barrels two have been rechambered to wildcat cartridges and one is a 22LR match chamber all I do is switch the selector on the hammer for rimfire or centerfire (there are two firing pins in the frame).
Last Oct I purchased a s/s T/C Prohunter I settled on two barrel/cartridge combo's = 30-06 and 375H&H had both 28" barrels shortened to 22" = short fast handling do everything I could think of combo's except now you have me dreaming of a 24" - 26" barrel chambered in 6mm-284 but instead of stubbing I would just buy a 243 Win barrel and have it rechambered if I was interested in a 6.5 cal I would find a 260 Rem barrel and have it rechambered as well.
T/C uses good barrels but from what I understand the alignment of the chamber/throats are not with the best machining practicies they can be cleaned by rechambering to a larger case design resulting in better accuracy.
Last Oct I purchased a s/s T/C Prohunter I settled on two barrel/cartridge combo's = 30-06 and 375H&H had both 28" barrels shortened to 22" = short fast handling do everything I could think of combo's except now you have me dreaming of a 24" - 26" barrel chambered in 6mm-284 but instead of stubbing I would just buy a 243 Win barrel and have it rechambered if I was interested in a 6.5 cal I would find a 260 Rem barrel and have it rechambered as well.
T/C uses good barrels but from what I understand the alignment of the chamber/throats are not with the best machining practicies they can be cleaned by rechambering to a larger case design resulting in better accuracy.
I would have gone with a rechamber if there was a 6.5mm barel available... but that is not an option, so I would have had to rebore also... I'm further ahead to stub a Krieger 6.5mm barrel and chamber .260 AI... it fits in very well with my current .223, .243, 7mm-08, .308 Ultra's.
If you look closely the barrel is offset in the barrel "stub"... It is a way to make the rimfire barrel function in a receiver not designed with the dual firing pins. H&R did something similar with their "Versa Pack" gun sets.
Do any of you have any Bullberry barrels, I have one for my Contender pistol and I would like to get one or two of their barrels for my Encore rifle.
If you have purchased a Bullberry barrel recently what is the easiest way of doing it, I know that I will have to deal with an importer so any advice on who to use/not use would also be appreciated.
If you have purchased a Bullberry barrel recently what is the easiest way of doing it, I know that I will have to deal with an importer so any advice on who to use/not use would also be appreciated.
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I'm interested in this option also. Tagged to see what develops
