T/C pro hunter barrels
- Thread starter carverk
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Always a good practice to contact the CFC directly, as much as we all try and assist our CGN members here misunderstandings can happen.
My point was that no one not even a licensed gunsmith can shorten a (non-semi auto. centre fire) rifle barrel below 457mm (18") regardless of action type, calibre or overall length w/o the firearm becoming prohibited, even a rifle that is already restricted.
Copied from the Canadian firearms regulations site:
Prohibited firearms include:
handguns with a barrel length of 105 mm or less and handguns that discharge .25 or .32 calibre ammunition, except for a few specific ones used in International Shooting Union competitions;
rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing or other means so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm or their overall length is less than 660 mm;
full automatics;
converted automatics, namely full automatics that have been altered so that they fire only one projectile when the trigger is squeezed; and
firearms prohibited by Criminal Code Regulations.
I hope this clears this up as I do wish you the best with your rifle CampCook.
Cheers D
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I had the T/C Encore Pro Hunter checked and a 12" just make it 26 1/8 so that it cant go shorter but 12" barrel is okay
I called the CFC and asked about cutting a barrel down and they said yes as long as its not under 18 1/2"
cut any thing shorter it is prohibited !
if a rifle has a shorter barrel that was manufactured that way or a custom manufactured barrel is okay
I called the CFC and asked about cutting a barrel down and they said yes as long as its not under 18 1/2"
cut any thing shorter it is prohibited !
if a rifle has a shorter barrel that was manufactured that way or a custom manufactured barrel is okay
If you're stating this then you must be right I just not understanding it all that clearly. However re-reading doesn't sen to clarify anything for me, saying that I am doing all this typing late at night w/o the aid of coffee.
Are you saying it's legal to cut down a barrel that comes pre-made from a factory/manufactured... that is already under 457mm (18") because it is already a restricted barrel? that is treading on a very slippery slope regarding the reg.'s as I read them or perhaps I'm confused? (again).
If we are discussing manually operated rifles here (and I believe we are) that come with a factory or manufactured barrel that is already under 457mm (18") the firearm wouldn't actually be restricted since the rifle is manually operated and not a semi.auto. centre fire rifle (and providing it's overall length is over 660mm it wouldn't be prohibited either).
Therefore cutting it shorter makes it a non-factory or modified manufactured barrel under 457mm on a manually operated centre-fire rifle, which would be a prohibited firearm under the reg.'s. (correct?)
Otherwise how would you determine/prove the barrel length before it was cut down with regards to an officer doing an inspection on your rifle for example and would that even matter with respect to our fine (cough not cough) regulations?
Our regulation's only tell us what we can't have or can't do, not what we can have or can do unfortunately.
Sorry for the confusion, I only wanted to clarify it isn't acceptable to shorten a (manually operated) rifle barrel to less then 457mm (18"). My mistake must have been regarding what you were stating; (that shortening a barrel below 470mm was approved by a CFC for you to actually do.).
Prohibited firearms include:
handguns with a barrel length of 105 mm or less and handguns that discharge .25 or .32 calibre ammunition, except for a few specific ones used in International Shooting Union competitions;
rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing or other means so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm or their overall length is less than 660 mm;
full automatics;
converted automatics, namely full automatics that have been altered so that they fire only one projectile when the trigger is squeezed; and
firearms prohibited by Criminal Code Regulations.
Please understand I'm only trying to clarify what is correct under the reg.'s, I'm not trying to make an argument or any problems here.
Cheers D
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Zero no worries I understand.
For clarification I was not talking about handguns I was referring to manually operated action (not semi's) rifles/shotguns/long guns that still have an overall length over 26" with whatever barrel length you have that was originally manufactured under 18.5".
You are discussing handguns with barrel lengths being prohib with barrels shorter than 4.2" and long guns with barrel lengths longer than 18.5" being shortened = I am not referring to these in anyway and yes I stated the difference for long gun barrels longer than 18.5" earlier.
As to handguns I have had a 7.5" barreled Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull shortened to a 4.25" barrel by Gunnar @ Armco in Prince George it is still restricted because it was not cut below legal length.
carverk if you can handle a longer length of pull I'd suggest a slightly longer butt stock or recoil pad to give yourself a little leeway if you are checked by a overzealous enforcement officer you are cutting it close on your overall length.
I bought a Boyds black/gray laminate stock set for one of my Prohunters length of pull of the butt stock is a bit longer makes it easier for me to handle the recoil of the 375H&H barrel.
For clarification I was not talking about handguns I was referring to manually operated action (not semi's) rifles/shotguns/long guns that still have an overall length over 26" with whatever barrel length you have that was originally manufactured under 18.5".
You are discussing handguns with barrel lengths being prohib with barrels shorter than 4.2" and long guns with barrel lengths longer than 18.5" being shortened = I am not referring to these in anyway and yes I stated the difference for long gun barrels longer than 18.5" earlier.
As to handguns I have had a 7.5" barreled Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull shortened to a 4.25" barrel by Gunnar @ Armco in Prince George it is still restricted because it was not cut below legal length.
carverk if you can handle a longer length of pull I'd suggest a slightly longer butt stock or recoil pad to give yourself a little leeway if you are checked by a overzealous enforcement officer you are cutting it close on your overall length.
I bought a Boyds black/gray laminate stock set for one of my Prohunters length of pull of the butt stock is a bit longer makes it easier for me to handle the recoil of the 375H&H barrel.
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I went throw it once with with RMCP luck his partner new the law better then he did
thanks for the concern camp cook this has bin interesting
I'd contact Tony @ http://www.tonysforendsandgrips.net/
He makes awesome stocks for Contenders/Prohunters and will make it to fit that barrel perfectly in the configuration you want.
He is expensive but worth it.
I have 2 of his Contender forends for pistol barrels in black/gray laminate carbine configuration to match my black/gray laminate butt stocks.
He makes awesome stocks for Contenders/Prohunters and will make it to fit that barrel perfectly in the configuration you want.
He is expensive but worth it.
I have 2 of his Contender forends for pistol barrels in black/gray laminate carbine configuration to match my black/gray laminate butt stocks.
