T/C singleshots

[manbearpig]

i must admit, building something like this:

would definitely appeal to me as a little varmint gun.

 

[Win/64]

i must admit, building something like this:

would definitely appeal to me as a little varmint gun.

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Looks like someone glued a shoulder stock on a long barrel handgun. If I was looking for a single shot it would be a mint B-78 Browning.

 

[willy11]

I've got a T/C and really like it. I've owned lots of singles before, nef, h&r, ruger #1. I find my T/C fits me very well and is a lot lighter than my ruger #1. My T/C will shoot under .75" all day. I've got 2 barrels for it and am thinking hard about getting 3 more. Love the versatility of it. And like the fact that I can go into a store a buy a barrel and walk out without all the CFC garbage. I know I can with any other barrel as well, but don't need a gunsmith to alter anything. Will it replace my other guns, no, but is a cheap alternative to owning and trying out different calibres.

 

[KMD]

I was planning on buying two rifles this year. I have been researching a lot of guns and have decided to pick up a TC and two barrels in the calibers I planed on buying.

 

[duke1]

I just ordered from S.I.R. a T/C Prohunter in 338 Win Mag and a .50 cal muzzle loading barrel. S.I.R. is completely out-of-stock on the T/C and might not be even be able to have one for me by the fall hunting season.

I can't wait to be able to hunt moose in wide open spaces with a 28" barrel in a caliber such as the 338 WM. I'm also getting involved in muzzle loading hunting (longer season) and having the same gun for two separate seasons is a plus for me.

I have basically two hunting firearms at a price lower then a Sako or equivalent rifles. This is not to say that I don't have a wide range of firearms from entry level to some of the more expensive firearms available on the market. I'm one that believes that only one shot is needed to put away most animals as long as the shot is taken under controlled conditions and that the shooter is decently qualified.

Duke1

Dukie1

 

[bone-collector]

youre quoting US prices on barrels - which require a State Department issued export license - at a 1:1 ratio from a company that doesnt even ship outside the US and im the clueless one?

gee thats funny we had no problem getting a barrel and modded hinge pin but it helps having friends in the us and SIR is NOT the only dealer in Canada

and duke heres a list of dealers in Canada start calling them up there is suposed to be a shipment into canada in the next couple months I heard someone may have 1

link wasnt working if you go to the TC website and click on dealers and NON US dealers it will give you a list

 

[Gatehouse]

I'm not a fan of the T/C rifless....

No appeal whatsoever. I'd prefer to buy 3 rifles in 3 different chamberings than a TC and 3 barrels.

But they seem higher grade than NEF's, with no doubt.

If I wanted a singleshot, I'd be looking at the Ruger #1 or Brownings, I think.

 

[Sako300]

T/C really must be sponsoring a lot of the TV hunting action. Seems many are using the Encore/Pro Hunter. Anybody know if the US regs are moving towards singleshot? or is it just the versatilty of the blackpowder and longer season.
I vote for the Ruger#1 as well, but I salute the blackpowder versatility for sure.

 

[hakx]

Single shots: No regs. It's a preference thing.


Sponsorship is great marketing strategy on behalf of T/C, as it negates the possiblity of any other brand name of firearm (the competition) being named on the show -for fear of having the sponsorship money pulled.

 

[sheephunter]

Apparently the CFC has not fully understood the multi barrel gun concept. I know people who have had problems with registering the barrels. Anyone else hear this?

You don't need to register barrels so you are being fed a line of crap....you register the receiver and can have as many barrels as you like. There's no issues registering the receivers at all.

 

[duke1]

As a former CFC appointed firearms verifier, I can tell you that all barrel combinations for a particular action must be reported to CFC with their unique FRT number as part of the verification. I have the Firearm Verification sheet in front of me and in section "B", Calibre/Shot/Barrel Lenght Combinations has space for 3 combinations and if more are present, to attach list. The caliber, shots, barrel length and the FRT number are required for each barrel.

The FRT number would be something like 41607-XX where the XX would be numbers corresponding to the barrel (length and gauge). For example, FRT number 41607-02 could represent a combination of 12 GA shotgun with a barrel length of 584 mm and FRT number 41607-07 could represet a combination of 22-250 Rem with a barrel length of 657 mm with both using the same frame/action represented by 41607.

I don't know what information would be included on the registration certificate (single or multiple and what information) in such situations - never saw one before but I would think that someone here must know.

I just called CFC and the lady who answered was basically concerned as to whether the classification (non-restricted, etc) of the firearm would remain the same or not with a change of barrel. She said she could not help me with such questions as to what to do if you buy another barrel and she said one of the firearms technicians would be needed to answer this.

After the transfer of the call to the technician, I was told that due to excessive call volume, that they could not answer my call and to leave my name and telephone number and that someone would call me. I did not bother to do that.



Duke1

 

[Huntsman]

I only own an Encore SS muzzleloader

 

[sheephunter]

As a former CFC appointed firearms verifier, I can tell you that all barrel combinations for a particular action must be reported to CFC with their unique FRT number as part of the verification. I have the Firearm Verification sheet in front of me and in section "B", Calibre/Shot/Barrel Lenght Combinations has space for 3 combinations and if more are present, to attach list. The caliber, shots, barrel length and the FRT number are required for each barrel.

The FRT number would be something like 41607-XX where the XX would be numbers corresponding to the barrel (length and gauge). For example, FRT number 41607-02 could represent a combination of 12 GA shotgun with a barrel length of 584 mm and FRT number 41607-07 could represet a combination of 22-250 Rem with a barrel length of 657 mm with both using the same frame/action represented by 41607.

I don't know what information would be included on the registration certificate (single or multiple and what information) in such situations - never saw one before but I would think that someone here must know.

I just called CFC and the lady who answered was basically concerned as to whether the classification (non-restricted, etc) of the firearm would remain the same or not with a change of barrel. She said she could not help me with such questions as to what to do if you buy another barrel and she said one of the firearms technicians would be needed to answer this.

After the transfer of the call to the technician, I was told that due to excessive call volume, that they could not answer my call and to leave my name and telephone number and that someone would call me. I did not bother to do that.



Duke1

A registration certificate does not indicate the calibre of the firearm and you are not required to register barrels so you register the Encore with the barrel that's on it at the time of purchase and that's all the info the CFC ever requires. Having registered a dozen over the years and transfered several, I've been through this a lot.

 

[hakx]

You do not need a PAL to buy an extra barrel for the T/C, as it is not considered a firearm. It is just an aftermarket improvement like a composite stock or trigger.

Do you register a length of pipe ? - 'cause that is all the barrel is without a receiver.

Cheers, Hakx

 

[duke1]

You do not need a PAL to buy an extra barrel for the T/C, as it is not considered a firearm. It is just an aftermarket improvement like a composite stock or trigger.

Do you register a length of pipe ? - 'cause that is all the barrel is without a receiver.

Cheers, Hakx

I fully agree with you on not needing to register barrels, but what would be included in the box for type of firearm on the certificate in my example used above? Would it be a shotgun, rifle or a combination gun as the frame can use either (shotgun or rifle -T/C firearm with multiple barrels)?

For example, I buy a T/C Encore or whatever with a shotgun barrel and then later on, I buy a rifle barrel and sell the shotgun barrel. Now what I really have as to type of firearm is a rifle and not a shotgun. Or course it could be classified as a combination gun but I believe the combination gun designation is confined to guns with two barrels installed such as a shotgun and a rifle.

Would this matter to CFC? I doubt it but neverheless, we would have a firearms data base with missing or incorrect data. I guess it would not be any worse than registring a soldering gun as a firearm.

I'm still very curious as to what the actual policy at CFC is and will try again to talk to one of their firearms technicians looking after such details as discussed in this thread.

I'm in the process of buying a T/C Encore Pro Hunter with 2 barrels - a 338 WM rifle and a .50 caliber muzzle loading black powder one and I'm curious as to what it will registered as. Will it be registered as a Combination Gun with multiple barrels or a Rifle or what?

Duke1

 

[hakx]

I'm in the process of buying a T/C Encore Pro Hunter with 2 barrels - a 338 WM rifle and a .50 caliber muzzle loading black powder one and I'm curious as to what it will registered as. Will it be registered as a Combination Gun with multiple barrels or a Rifle or what?
Duke1

Centerfires and muzzleloader do not have separate classes, they are generically branded as "rifles".

You will get one Registration certificate resembling the following:

Make: Thomson Center Arms
Class: Non restricted
Action: Single shot
Barrel Length: 470mm or greater.

Like Sheephunter said - absolutely no mention of calibre anywhere on the registration certificate

That's it, thats all.

Hope this helps,

Hakx

 

[sheephunter]

I fully agree with you on not needing to register barrels, but what would be included in the box for type of firearm on the certificate in my example used above? Would it be a shotgun, rifle or a combination gun as the frame can use either (shotgun or rifle -T/C firearm with multiple barrels)?

For example, I buy a T/C Encore or whatever with a shotgun barrel and then later on, I buy a rifle barrel and sell the shotgun barrel. Now what I really have as to type of firearm is a rifle and not a shotgun. Or course it could be classified as a combination gun but I believe the combination gun designation is confined to guns with two barrels installed such as a shotgun and a rifle.

Would this matter to CFC? I doubt it but neverheless, we would have a firearms data base with missing or incorrect data. I guess it would not be any worse than registring a soldering gun as a firearm.

I'm still very curious as to what the actual policy at CFC is and will try again to talk to one of their firearms technicians looking after such details as discussed in this thread.

I'm in the process of buying a T/C Encore Pro Hunter with 2 barrels - a 338 WM rifle and a .50 caliber muzzle loading black powder one and I'm curious as to what it will registered as. Will it be registered as a Combination Gun with multiple barrels or a Rifle or what?

Duke1

You register it as the type of firearm you bought it as. If you buy a 12 ga Encore you register it as a shotgun. If it was a .338, it's a rifle. What barrels you put on it later has no bearing as long as the serial number matches the certificate.

 

[Win/64]

You register it as the type of firearm you bought it as. If you buy a 12 ga Encore you register it as a shotgun. If it was a .338, it's a rifle. What barrels you put on it later has no bearing as long as the serial number matches the certificate.

Shotgun??? Just what we need a $1,000 single shot shotgun.... Is there an adjustible Trap stock available?

 

[sheephunter]

Shotgun??? Just what we need a $1,000 single shot shotgun.... Is there an adjustible Trap stock available?

I doubt anyone would buy one as a dedicated shotgun but throwing a shotgun barrel in the case on a fly-in caribou hunt sure is a nice option.....I know I've sure had some fun with ptarmigan.

 

[bone-collector]

no numbers on my barrel exept for 375H&H unless there hidden under the forend, regardless you dont register barrels anyhow as said and I am not sure but havent even seen a TC prohunter available in a shotgun, the barrels but havent seen a complete unit yet?