Hey this is my first post, And I'm having a hell of a time deciding between the t97nsr and a 9mm jrc. I've been reading there are a few problems with each firearm. But they are the only 2 in my price range that I'm interested In. For a little bit I was interested In the keltec su 16f, But I heard it has a polymer receiver and that kinda seems like it wouldn't last. Any advice would be great. Thanks in advance.
T97 vs JR Carbine
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They're very different guns your describing there.
9mm is going to have you topped out at say . . . 50 yards? Maybe a little further than that.
.223, well the T97 should still be passable at 200-300 yards if your a confident shooter.
Totally different purposes. Both non-restricted though!
It's almost like asking: "Should I have a tuna sandwich, or a tennis racket?"
9mm is going to have you topped out at say . . . 50 yards? Maybe a little further than that.
.223, well the T97 should still be passable at 200-300 yards if your a confident shooter.
Totally different purposes. Both non-restricted though!
It's almost like asking: "Should I have a tuna sandwich, or a tennis racket?"
If you've got an indoor 20 meter range you'll probably have more luck with the JR. Some indoor ranges require the use of frangible .223 which can be expensive (like $2 a round expensive). If a 20m range is your primary use case the JR might be the way to go. Would you be using it for anything else outdoors?
Yes I can shoot .223 there, I've shot 30-06 there so .223 shouldn't be a problem I'm guessing? The website says "On the ground floor, we have a modern indoor handgun range facility. The gun range is 20 meters long and has 8 shooting stations. It is equipped with automatic returning targets, and will safely handle all calibres and bullet types for handguns, as well as rifle bullets and shotguns." So it does say rifles are fine. Just nothing steel. And I might be using it outside eventually. But for now just indoors.
I own both and both are a major pain in the ass.
So I suggest putting your money elsewhere, like a decent quality AR if you're willing to save another 400$-600$, a daniel defense will last your lifetime (1600$) if you're fine with it being limited to the range.
So I suggest putting your money elsewhere, like a decent quality AR if you're willing to save another 400$-600$, a daniel defense will last your lifetime (1600$) if you're fine with it being limited to the range.
My 9mm JRC has run flawlessly. The 45s have had some problems but the 9mm and 40 S&W versions generally seem to run well. Don't have a T97 yet as I've been on the CanAm list since 2009 but I'm looking forward to it as well.
Tommycanada
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Im curious to what type of issues you had/have with the T97.. please do tell!
-Tom
JR carbine:
One hell of a sticky bolt, tried contacting JR told me to rotate the bolt extender 180 degrees. didn't work. tried to contact them since then no actual response to my problem, i.e. ohhh our gunsmith inst here, he'll call you back, oh he hasn't called you back he's at a show now, oh he'll call you back right away.... blah blah blah blah BS. I even tried ordering a new bolt and a new bolt extender from their website, they can't ship to Canada. So can someone tell me what I need to do now?
T97:
Optics being a major issue.
Filing down so that my lar mags work has been another.
I haven't tried it since the filing, who knows maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.
Between the two options you're considering I'd go with the JR carbine. I've held the T97 and the ergonomics were very off-putting to me. I'd stick to the 9 or 40 version of the JRC as there have been more reports of problems with the 45. Another couple of positives for the JRC are the AR like customization and the use of pistol mags which could be interchanged with a future pistol if you desire.
Unfortunately I only have my PAL not my RPAL. After reading some off this I don't really want either. If I'm spending over a grand on a firearm I want it to function flawlessly and it seems with these 2 it's a hit or miss. And that really sucks because its all I can afford right now. I'm thinking I should wait till the spring and buy a tavor or an XCR-L or something like that. But at the same time I don't wanna wait! I might just take the chance and fix what ever needs to be fixed.
You got negative comments from one person on both guns and a negative on the T97 ergonomics (something that is entirely an individual opinion) and that led you to conclude that the two are "hit and miss"?
I can guarantee you that there are practically no guns out there that will satisfy everyone or that have never had a problem from the factory. Maybe if you want to drop $5000 on a Korth revolver or $15000 on a Perazzi shotgun you can be guaranteed that it will work flawlessly right out of the box but for production line firearms that's just not going to happen. Tavors and XCRs have their share of critics too. Pick the one you like, shoot it and if it's not what you expect look elsewhere. There are few guarantees in life.
Shooter1of38
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I added some facts to your post that the website may leave out.
Ah, good old Colby. All that for $300 plus per year.....
Couldn't agree more. A 20m range would be boring with a rifle, get your RPAL. Even if you don't get a restricted, the more RPAL's the merrier. If you must have a rifle, save your money and get something in the spring. If you need something right now, either will suffice, but you will (or may) be bored shooting it at 20m. I have not shot or handled either the JR or T97. My opinion is get your hands on them and see how they feel. I like bullpups so my choice would be the T97.
If they do not allow milsurp as Shooter 1of38 says, that rules out the cheap Norinco available.
And as others have noted, a 20Y range is really short.
Have you considered getting a Ruger 10/22 and dressing up to whatever tacticool look you want?
And as others have noted, a 20Y range is really short.
Have you considered getting a Ruger 10/22 and dressing up to whatever tacticool look you want?
