T97NSR; Range Trip, 2nd Time Updated With New Pics!

[Travis Bickle]

Thanks for the time you took to do this review. I, too, am on the CanAm waiting list (since 2009 ). I've always been a sucker for anything that pisses off 'the man' which is why I have an XCR-L, XCR-M, 180-B, SL8, NR CZ858, JR Carbine and will get a T97 when (if?) they finally show up. I've also been sorely tempted to get a Tavor and RFB because they are NR bullpups but the high cost has held me back a bit.

Omitting the RFB (just so we're comparing .223 apples to .223 apples) what is the typical accuracy of a stock Tavor? Are they significantly better than a stock T97? I only ask because you seem put off by the mediocre accuracy vs. the cost of the T97 but Tavors run in the mid $2000's and I'm wondering if they are much more accurate than the T97 for the extra $1500. If not, then maybe the $300 for an FTU would not be a bad investment as you would have a gun that, from your report is reliable, well built and well finished for at least $1000 less than what an equivalent equipped Tavor would cost.

And just so everyone knows, I'm not knocking the Tavor (want one myself) but I'm just trying to get a feel for quality vs. accuracy vs. cost between the two.

As an aside, if the T97 has a 1:7 barrel you might want to try 69 gr. ammo as well. I know Federal and Winchester make match ammo in that weight and while you probably wouldn't use it as a steady diet it would widen your parameters in terms of accuracy potential in the T97.

Thanks again for your report.

Aye, I have not fired a Tavor, just handled one and dry fired it to feel out the trigger. The price turns me off fast lol The tavor does have the flat top option so you could easily throw a better optic on it without hacking it up/permanently modifying it.

I can't justify the cash for one though at the end of the day. Even the T97 seems way overpriced for what you get but again this is Canada lol

I have one with the PLA scope on it, and one with the SFRC rail adapter with a Leupold Delta Point sight. I haven't tried the scope yet, when I do I'll report back.

Please do, I'm curious to see an honest accuracy report on these things with a decent optic, vice vague tall tales of sub MOA accuracy out to 200 meters etc etc

 

[tactical870]

Is that a five shot, half inch group at 50 yards with the stock iron sights on a T97 you say?

That is with a bushnell red dot.

Wow, he must be good. That's friggin amazing.

Yeah. Kid shoots better than I do off a bench. I've seen him shoot a 4" group at 400 yards with my 7mm mag.

 

[Deuce-deuce]

Right on! I can only wish to shoot like that. I find bullpups hard to shoot accurately.

 

[Travis Bickle]

That is with a bushnell red dot.

I could see it with optics, even still though with a red dot!? Christ the dot would cover a 6" target at 50 meters!

 

[ted_dent]

That is with a bushnell red dot.

I could see it with optics, even still though with a red dot!? Christ the dot would cover a 6" target at 50 meters!

Actually if it was a 5 MOA red dot the dot would only cover 2 1/2" @ 50 yards. That's why I really like EoTechs with the dot/circle combo. The dot is only 1MOA which makes it pretty good for distance work while the circle is 65 MOA which is fine for close up action shooting.