Tabuk - Iraqi semi sniper from Yugo

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This guy surely gets off fast shots. Durka poser. :rolleyes:
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http://www.dragunov.net/iraq_tabuk.htm
 
"...his safety is still on..." I'm guessing it's a posed picture. If he does take the safety off and fires, he going to get a case of Weatherby eyebrow.
 
An accurized AK variant...that would be an oxymoron. More than adequate for your regular garden variety Derkas and Jihads that need to consistently sustain a barrage of ineffective and utterly inaccurate fire allowing the nearest FLIR camera to zero-in on their position and subsequently dispatch the Jihads.
 
koalorka said:
An accurized AK variant...that would be an oxymoron.
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Actually, speaking as a fan of the rifles, I can tell you that there are many Yankees shooting competitions with accurized VEPRs which are comparable in accuracy to a similarly priced AR. They're no snipers, but 1 MOA is easily attainable with a quality American or Russian-made AK. It's the soda-straw barrels and terrible triggers that do in the standard AKMs. Make that a longer heavy barrel and smooth out the trigger, and you have a decent shooter. My M78 with a Chinese RPK front assembly does 2 MOA consistently with decent ammo. I think 6" at 300 yds is accurate enough, unless you're trying to make a donut out of a coin :p.
 
In the urban environment in which it is deployed, how is it any different than using a SPR based M-16? So what if it's a 2moa weapon? Minute of dead is still dead.

It sure is f-ugly.
 
This is an RPK variant, sold for a long time by the Romanians. A 'sniper' variant of RPK with all perks and goodies: stamped receiver, LMG barrel... A moke-up of Dragunov, sold in the US for 500 bucks vs 3K for Dragunov.
 
svt-40 said:
This is an RPK variant, sold for a long time by the Romanians. A 'sniper' variant of RPK with all perks and goodies: stamped receiver, LMG barrel... A moke-up of Dragunov, sold in the US for 500 bucks vs 3K for Dragunov.
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Thats a negative - these are pics of the Yugo M70 series, and the Romanian Romak/PSL/FPK sold in the US is a beefed-up AK shooting the 7.62x54R. Uses a mag similar but not interchangeable with the Dragonov.
 
I am not debating the country, just ranting on the Romanian RPK clones, that flooded the US market under the name 'Romanian Dragunov rifle'. Still the same idea: stamped receiver is the name of the game.
 
svt-40 said:
I am not debating the country, just ranting on the Romanian RPK clones, that flooded the US market under the name 'Romanian Dragunov rifle'. Still the same idea: stamped receiver is the name of the game.
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Who would have a problem of rifles coming into the country? WUM 1s came in during the ban (which is good), anyone "in the know" knew they weren't Dragunovs, and I bet Canadians would line up around the block to get one today. This model wasn't an RPK receiver though.

http://www.ak-47.net/ak47/romanian.html


Grouse Man said:
Mooslem mall ninja?
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Funny!
 
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This is an RPK variant, sold for a long time by the Romanians. A 'sniper' variant of RPK with all perks and goodies: stamped receiver, LMG barrel... A moke-up of Dragunov, sold in the US for 500 bucks vs 3K for Dragunov.

DaveGP said:
Thats a negative - these are pics of the Yugo M70 series, and the Romanian Romak/PSL/FPK sold in the US is a beefed-up AK shooting the 7.62x54R. Uses a mag similar but not interchangeable with the Dragonov.
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Umm, neither answer is completely correct:

I have to disagree with the idea that this is a "sniper" rifle. The Iraqis have true (Russian & Chinese) SVDs ect in service.

It is rather what we are now calling a "designated marksmans rifle" ala M-14/C7CT (as opposed to an M-21 or C3a1 ect.).

It is chambered in 7.62x39mm.

It is an RPK varient, with a modified SVD type trigger group. (The Iraqis apparently had Zastava set up their AK plant).

It is not related to the Romanian Romak/PSL/FPK.

There was an article in the Small Arms Review about a year ago.
 
Lee Enfield said:
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The Iraqis have true (Russian & Chinese) SVDs ect in service.
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The rifles in those pictures are like a DM rifle in the old Iraqi Army, modelled after the Yugo series. They aren't true 'sniper' rifles. They are accurate enough to kill people out to a few hundred meters as are most AKs. As far as I know, all of the Tabuk series use RPK recievers. The DM variant usually sell for less than a normal AK because they are too long to really be handy. The quality on the Iraqi Yugo copies varies from #### to great. I had chopped Tabuk built that was better than most AKs from Eastern Europe.

The vast majority of the "SVD" type rifles in Iraq are Iraqi and are not parts compatible with the other countries weapons. There are SOME Russian ones. I sold a captured one that was the best out of a large lot, with the issued scope, and also a Nikon 4-16 Military with ARMS mount.
 
koalorka said:
An accurized AK variant...that would be an oxymoron. More than adequate for your regular garden variety Derkas and Jihads that need to consistently sustain a barrage of ineffective and utterly inaccurate fire allowing the nearest FLIR camera to zero-in on their position and subsequently dispatch the Jihads.
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First 2 of the pics are IA, the 3rd is Mahdi and likely the 4th as well, no idea who the 5th is probably an insurgent. Not all of the guys you see on TV with AKs are Jihadists.

And for ineffective fire, the insurgents have been pretty successful so they're obviously doing something right.
 
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