Taking elk with 30-30?

DAM muptia now you made me wanna be in it

ok if you shoot a moose at 50 yards with a lever gun and it falls down then gets back up and you cant make a follow up shot :slap: then may I sugest a :50cal:
 
Well like I said, I was a rookie, first big game animal ever. The rifle in question was a bolt action and when the moose went down and was struggleing to regain its feet I short stroked my rifle and ended up denting the side of the case from trying to get it to chamber sideways. Like I said a rookie and just a little excited. But it definetely shaped some lasting rifle preferences. Give me a large caliber for the respective game and please make it controlled round feeding to avoid short stroking during the exciting moments and if I ever don't get excited give me the sense to take up knitting or something. All of you you have killed elephants with your 30.30s congrats I hope it will always work for you, but for me I will grab something bigger and have my peace of mind.


bone-collector said:
DAM muptia now you made me wanna be in it

ok if you shoot a moose at 50 yards with a lever gun and it falls down then gets back up and you cant make a follow up shot :slap: then may I sugest a :50cal:
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30-30 works, get over it
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ok so then it is the calibers fault your abilities were not up to par? :slap:
because of short stroking things and 50 less grains of lead you wounded a moose? :slap: so by going out and buying a 338 it will be a much more loyal firearm and shoot itself more accuratly at 50 yards and promises never to be a short stroker?:slap:

yea know I may be wrong but I think human error here would be to blame on the moose hunt you had cause obviously caliber had F@CALL to do with it!:slap:
 
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bone-collector said:
ok so then it is the calibers fault your abilities were not up to par? :slap:
because of short stroking things and 50 less grains of lead you wounded a moose? :slap: so by going out and buying a 338 it will be a much more loyal firearm and shoot itself more accuratly at 50 yards and promises never to be a short stroker?:slap:

yea know I may be wrong but I think human error here would be to blame on the moose hunt you had cause obviously caliber had F@CALL to do with it!:slap:
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I think either you didn't read my posts or you are trying so hard to be funny that you choose not to understand what I said. :slap:
So I will try again. I believe that if I shot the moose in the same place with a .338 it would have stayed down. I believe that if I used a controlled round feed rifle that I couldn't have short stroked it in my excitement. I believe that I will never again use a 30.30 on game as large as a moose. I understand that you have a different opinion/experince with the 30.30 and I'm glad we don't have to all believe the same thing to enjoy hunting. That is probably why most sporting goods stores have more on the shelf than just a line of 30.30s and I'm glad that I have a choice. Sorry if I dumped on your pet caliber. :D
 
hey its not my pet caliber but obviously you think that a 200 grain bullet is the same wounding spot a 150 grain bullet just went will make a difference then have ater , your the one not seeing the fact you wounded an animal and think it was just because the hole wasnt big nuff ;)
 
bone-collector said:
hey its not my pet caliber but obviously you think that a 200 grain bullet is the same wounding spot a 150 grain bullet just went will make a difference then have ater , your the one not seeing the fact you wounded an animal and think it was just because the hole wasnt big nuff ;)
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If you could read I wouldn't need to explain.:slap: in an earlier post I said the poorly constucted bullet blew up on the shoulder. So a larger caliber better constructed bullet would have broken both shoulders and the moose would not have gotten back to its feet.
 
John Y Cannuck said:
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I just went to do the same thing Bob, but my hunt101 has been edited, and the photo isnt there anymore...

I've folded em with a dirty thirty too...

No need for a supercalafragilistic magnum...

Im planning on building a 358 win to shoot a moose with this year.
I've got lots of thump in adifferent rifles, but after killing critters with a bunch of different calibers and seeing moose fall to supposed "sub" calibers,
they're not that tough.
 
Well, it seems what mr ram is saying is that the 30-30 leaves less room for error.

With a 30-30, at 100 yards it's got to be a well placed heart or lung shot - with something like a 300 winmag with a good bullet it could also be shoulder, hump, etc and still have the same effect - leaves a LITTLE more room for error.

That's probably true. And of course - there's the ever-possible screw up that the moose "at 100 yards" is actually closer to 200. Which happens. A 300 winmag wouldn't care, but a 30-30 might.

But - within its limitations, I'm sure a 30-30 could drop an elk same as any other cartridge. Although I've heard it's a lot harder to get an elk to stop than a moose.
 
My_Ram said:
If you could read I wouldn't need to explain.:slap: in an earlier post I said the poorly constucted bullet blew up on the shoulder. So a larger caliber better constructed bullet would have broken both shoulders and the moose would not have gotten back to its feet.
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Ok,

But a better constructed bullet out of a .30.30 may be what you needed instead.
 
Foxer said:
That's probably true. And of course - there's the ever-possible screw up that the moose "at 100 yards" is actually closer to 200. Which happens. A 300 winmag wouldn't care, but a 30-30 might.
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Not with the lever evolution round.:D :shotgun:

I hope its not too obvious that I'm a fan of the dirty 30.;)
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Foxer said:
Well, it seems what mr ram is saying is that the 30-30 leaves less room for error.

With a 30-30, at 100 yards it's got to be a well placed heart or lung shot - with something like a 300 winmag with a good bullet it could also be shoulder, hump, etc and still have the same effect - leaves a LITTLE more room for error.

That's probably true. And of course - there's the ever-possible screw up that the moose "at 100 yards" is actually closer to 200. Which happens. A 300 winmag wouldn't care, but a 30-30 might.

But - within its limitations, I'm sure a 30-30 could drop an elk same as any other cartridge. Although I've heard it's a lot harder to get an elk to stop than a moose.
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ok but I didnt SAY 50 yards and it ran away with bullet failure to the shoulder :slap:
and Ive heard its hard to shoot deer with certain buddies around to :slap: :dancingbanana:
 
My_Ram said:
If you could read I wouldn't need to explain.:slap: in an earlier post I said the poorly constucted bullet blew up on the shoulder. So a larger caliber better constructed bullet would have broken both shoulders and the moose would not have gotten back to its feet.
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Its not him needing explaining... had you hit it in the same spot with a 460 WBY, it would have likely done the same thing...

If you shortstroked the rifle, and couldnt clear your jam in about 10 seconds, it was human error... (Its called buck fever)
Justify it however you want, but a real man would admit their mistake, not blame the caliber, and try to justify it to the masses...

we've all made mistakes...
 
ok but I didnt SAY 50 yards and it ran away with bullet failure to the shoulder
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Sure - but your 300 winmag might well have broken the shoulder and carried on to the next shoulder. I guess the 30-30 may not have that kind of horsepower.
and Ive heard its hard to shoot deer with certain buddies around to
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No it isn't - you just yell "Deer!" and get the hell under the truck till the shooting stops. :D :D :D
 
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