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Guys I should be asking this in the ammo section, but figured I'd get better answers from this forum.

I'm looking for ammo that would meet My standards which could be used for gopher/small game, target style / Benchrest accuracy or ammo that would been used in the 1/2 inch at 50 challenge. I will be using this ammo from 25yrds up to about 125yrds. I have a few rifles I'm building and a few I bought that need to be tested for accuracy, most of these rimfires will be used for matches, So I'm looking for info and your reviews on these brands listed.

For you guys shooting ARA or USBR style stock/factory rifle class with ammo cost restrictions your info is needed as well.

These brands list I have never tried so this is partly why I'm asking as I have no access to this ammo in my area and will have to order it.

Eley Ammo what is the difference between the names & Remington Eley, I'm also not a fan of paying crazy $$ for rimfire ammo.
I understand you get what you pay for, SK standard Plus was my go to but hard to get were I'm located also what are your thoughts and results on these brands list below?

So again, If you have used these brands or tested them I'm looking for your opinions / thoughts on these as well, do some perform well at a cost saving as others?
I understand every gun & barrel is different and what works for one gun doesn't mean it will work for others. This is to help me & maybe others on CGN narrow down some choices for range testing.

info on this ammo what I'm interested in:

Aguila SuperExtra
Aguila .22 Interceptor
Aguila .22 Subsonic Hollow Point
Aguila .22 Target Competition
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Eley Contact
Eley Sport
Eley Club
Eley Team
ELEY Subsonic Hollow
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Remington Eley Club xtra
Remington Eley Target Rifle
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RWS Club
RWS Subsonic HP
RWS Semi Auto
RWS Rifle Match
RWS Target Rifle
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SK Biathlon Sport
SK Subsonic
SK Rifle Match
SK Pistol Match in rifles
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WOLF Match Target
WOLF Match Extra
 
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What you're asking has been discussed in numerous threads in the past. You want a not too expensive ammo that is going to do multiple jobs and shoot moa at 50 yards. You need to try a few and find which work well in your gun.
 
dryfire said:
What you're asking has been discussed in numerous threads in the past. You want a not too expensive ammo that is going to do multiple jobs and shoot moa at 50 yards. You need to try a few and find which work well in your gun.
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I understand that, most of these brands are within or just over what I'm will to spend on good target ammo. I also understand the every gun is different even if they are made on the same day, by the same guy from the same machine.

what I'm after is info on how these brands worked for others and how consistent they are.
 
I hate to say it, but what works for others is fully irrelevant for you and your rifle. Case in point- my buddy with a CZ 452 shoots SK std plus and does well with it. It shoots like a shotgun out of my CZ 455- same ammo is <.75" at 50 for him and 2" for me. My rifle likes eley club in the medium speed range- but I'm still shooting through the cases I bought years ago so I don't know about the modern stuff. What works for someone else really doesn't predict what will shoot for you. Try everything you can, make sure you put through enough seasoning rounds to see the true performance and hopefully you find something not too expensive that works well.
 
I have 3 match rifles to find a load & 2 hunting/gopher rifles I still want under MOA at 50+ yds. So I'm hoping I don't have to buy 5 different brands just to get there.

in part if some of these brands I listed can't perform to my level of standard I'd like to avoid buying bricks of it. I will most likely have to shoot about 50-100 rounds in each rifle just to see how it works.
 
My previous CZ (452 Varmint) liked the SK Rifle Match best, but would still get an occasional flier and did not complete the 50 yard challenge.
My current CZ (455 Thumbhole, Fluted) likes RWS Championship best, and easily completed the 50 yard challenge.
My Benchrest 10/22 (Dlask/Green Mountain) likes Remington Target Rifle best, but still gets the occasional flier and has not completed the challenge (although it has come very close). It does not like any of the other Eley, RWS or SK ammo that I have tried in it. I have not tried Aquila or Wolf.
 
Under 1 moa A 50 yds is easier said than done with the average rifle.Have you shot that in the contest.It usually takes at least an entry level ammo to attempt to get there.Most of the ammo is sub sonic and will have a big drop at 125 yds but is possible.Standard plus is easy to get in the prairies.What setup do you have in mind for the sage rats? Don't know what you call crazy money for ammo? It will be north of 12¢ per round and then some.

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Every rifle has its preferences. ELEY tests the match grade ammo . . . TENEX, MATCH and TEAM. I have not read anything in respect to EDGE.
They grade the first three based on performance from their Anschutz rifles. Which grade is packaged for Remington is anybody's guess but the price tends to run between TENEX and MATCH.
Lapua CenterX is worthy a try. Ordering from HIRSCH or Target Shooting Products is advisable.
Similarly, is the Federal Ultra Match really made by RWS to R50 Standards.
What is your rifle/scope/rests setup? Depending on your rifle, you may find results improve with different torque settings on your action screws.
 
ronnie01 said:
Under 1 moa A 50 yds is easier said than done with the average rifle.Have you shot that in the contest.It usually takes at least an entry level ammo to attempt to get there.Most of the ammo is sub sonic and will have a big drop at 125 yds but is possible.Standard plus is easy to get in the prairies.What setup do you have in mind for the sage rats? Don't know what you call crazy money for ammo? It will be north of 12¢ per round and then some.

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crazy price for me over $14 a box of 50. I understand you get what you pay for but if I could afford buying Lapua Center-X or RWS-R50, RWS Special Match or even Eley Match these are out of my price range.

yes I can & do have the skills to shoot MOA @ 50 I just don't have the time these days to get out & shoot which I want to change, I also told work I want to slow down which they said they would accommodate, but didn't this year.
Where are you getting Standard plus Ronnie? personally $70-80 a brick for good ammo is about as high as I willing to pay as I don't have deep pockets.

Oh I will start with the entry ammo as I have 14,000 rounds now to burn up. for sage rats would be hollow points of course but not CCI stingers, as I'm running a Benz chamber in my 10/22 my other guns are CZ 452/455

horseman2 said:
Every rifle has its preferences. ELEY tests the match grade ammo . . . TENEX, MATCH and TEAM. I have not read anything in respect to EDGE.
They grade the first three based on performance from their Anschutz rifles. Which grade is packaged for Remington is anybody's guess but the price tends to run between TENEX and MATCH.
Lapua Center-X is worthy a try. Ordering from HIRSCH or Target Shooting Products is advisable.
Similarly, is the Federal Ultra Match really made by RWS to R50 Standards.
What is your rifle/scope/rests setup? Depending on your rifle, you may find results improve with different torque settings on your action screws.
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My rifles in question are.

CZ452 American, bedded stock, polish hammer & sear only, with Leupold VXII 6-18x40 AO target scope
CZ455 Varmint, YoDave trigger kit, DIP parts, Boyd's pro varmint stock with Leupold 6x42mm AO target scope.
Tactical Solutions Xring 10/22 factory rifle with Kidd trigger at 1.5lbs, Magpul X-22 stock, SWFA 20X Mils - Mrad scope

I'm in the process of ordering/tracking down a CZ 455 Varmint Precision Trainer Camo or Tacticool / Pro Varmint from the US. will have a Dip parts & YoDave trigger job, SWFA 16x Mils - Mrad scope.

Note; the TacSol Xring now has a Leupold FX3 6x42 AO target scope right now will switch to the SWFA when it gets here.

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I look at it this way. I have a sizeable investment in quality 22lr target ammo,probably 2k worth. When I purchase a new rifle now I usually have something that will work well with my new fire arm.I currently have 4 bricks of center x,4 SK std plus, 2 rifle match, 1 of midas +,1 Federal UM 22, a few bricks of cci sv, Aguila sub sonic, SV. I also keep about 7k rounds of cci mini mags in different varieties. I usually use Aguila or cci SV for sight ins and cold bore flyers. I then usually warm up with SK std and then usually shoot center x when going for good groups. Prophet River is my go to source on lapua and SK ..Center x is about $12 @ box and SK std $6.I always by when on sale.
 
Tests from Accurate shooter

50-Yard Results 75-Yard Results 100-Yard Results
0.162 Eley Tenex Ultimate EPS
0.164 Lapua Midas Plus
0.177 Lapua Polar Biathlonhttp://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/?s=22lr+tests&submit=Search
0.187 Eley Match EPS
0.193 Eley Match
0.203 Lapua Midas M
0.215 Lapua Center X
0.216 Western Value Pack
0.229 Lapua Signum
0.241 Lapua Master L
0.243 Eley Pistol Match
0.256 Olin Ball
0.256 Akah X-Zone
0.261 Lapua Midas L
0.261 Lapua Master M
0.263 Eley Tenex Semi Auto
0.270 Lapua Super Club
0.272 Eley Tenex
0.303 Lapua Standard Plus
0.312 CCI Standard Velocity
0.319 RWS R 50
0.319 Eley Standard
0.328 SK High Velocity
0.339 Eley Club Xtra
0.340 Winchester T22
0.356 Federal Champion
0.362 Eley Subsonic HP
0.371 CCI Mini Mag
0.376 Federal American Eagle
0.377 Norinco Target
0.380 Sellier & Bellot Club
0.384 Eley Club
0.387 Eley Sport
0.388 Totem
0.392 Swartklip Match Trainer
0.398 Federal Gold Medal
0.403 Swartklip HV
0.409 Eley Match Xtra Plus
0.424 Sellier & Bellot Std
0.443 Remington Target
0.461 Lapua Crow HP
0.475 Eley Silhouex
0.479 Magtech
0.498 Eley High Velocity
0.513 Winchester Super X
0.516 Kassnar Concorde
0.539 CCI Blazer
0.560 Winchester Supreme Pistol
0.576 Norinco Pistol Revolver
0.593 SK Standard
0.611 Sellier And Bellot HP
0.626 SK Standard HP
0.686 Logo HV
0.956 Pobjeda Target 0.274 Lapua Center X
0.283 Lapua Standard Plus
0.295 Eley Tenex Ultimate EPS
0.307 Lapua Midas M
0.329 Lapua Master M
0.346 Eley Match
0.373 Lapua Polar Biathlon
0.399 RWS R 50
0.432 Lapua Midas L
0.448 Eley Tenex Semi Auto
0.467 Eley Match EPS
0.474 Lapua master L
0.491 Eley Match Xtra Plus
0.494 CCI Standard
0.496 Eley Subsonic HP
0.507 Eley Sport
0.512 Federal American Eagle
0.513 SK High Velocity
0.514 Eley Standard
0.516 Eley Tenex
0.516 Lapua Crow HP
0.532 Western Value Pack
0.533 Fed. Champion Target
0.535 Lapua Midas Plus
0.564 Akah X Zone
0.566 Olin Ball
0.573 Eley Club Xtra
0.616 Lapua Signum
0.631 Winchester T22
0.639 Swartklip HV HP
0.641 Eley Club
0.642 Eley Silhouex
0.647 CCI Mini Mag
0.679 Eley Pistol Match
0.682 Swartklip Match Trainer
0.690 Federal Gold Medal
0.692 Remington HV
0.703 Lapua Super Club
0.720 Winchester Super X
0.738 Eley High Velocity
0.759 Kassnar Concorde
0.765 Sellier And Bellot Club
0.770 Winch. Supreme Pistol
0.770 Norinco target
0.775 CCI Blazer
0.802 Norinco Pistol Revolver
0.841 LVE Logo HV
0.855 Sellier & Bellot Std
0.871 Magtech
0.923 Sellier & Bellot HP
0.934 SK Standard HP
1.017 Remington Target
1.257 Totem Standard
1.442 SK Standard
1.578 Pobjeda target 0.455 Eley Match
0.510 Lapua Midas Plus
0.549 Lapua Midas M
0.611 Lapua Polar Biathlon
0.611 Eley Tenex Ultimate EPS
0.619 Eley Match EPS
0.622 Eley Club
0.630 Lapua Center X
0.631 RWS R50
0.679 Eley Tenex Semi Auto
0.694 Lapua Midas L
0.729 Eley Tenex
0.739 Lapua Master L
0.753 Lapua Super Club
0.785 Lapua Master M
0.831 Eley Sport
0.851 Eley Match Xtra
0.859 Lapua Standard Plus
0.867 Akah X-Zone
0.877 Eley Pistol Match
0.907 Norinco Target
0.924 Eley Silhouex
0.939 CCI Standard
0.952 Eley Subsonic HP
0.963 Magtech
0.970 Olin Ball
0.978 Kassnar Concorde
0.995 Eley Club Xtra
1.009 Western Value Pack
1.032 Federal Champion
1.087 Norinco Pistol Revolver
1.100 CCI Mini Mag
1.112 Lapua Crow HP
1.143 Winchester T22
1.142 Federal Gold Medal
1.144 federal American Eagle
1.156 Swartklip Hollo Point
1.165 Lapua Signum
1.170 Swartklip Match Trainer
1.175 Fed. Champion Value Pk
1.182 SK high Velocity
1.201 Totem
1.224 Winchester Super X
1.358 Eley Standard
1.367 Remington High Velocity
1.375 CCI Blazer
1.414 Eley High Velocity
1.450 Remington Target
1.504 LVE Logo
1.813 SK Standard
1.879 S&B Club
1.947 S&B Hollow Point
2.073 SK Standard HP
2.221 S&B Standard
2.266 Pobjeda Target
 
Some of that Tests from Accurate shooter is repeated with different scores

0.461 Lapua Crow HP
0.516 Lapua Crow HP
1.112 Lapua Crow HP

0.215 Lapua Center X
0.630 Lapua Center X

0.387 Eley Sport
0.507 Eley Sport
0.831 Eley Sport

0.216 Western Value Pack
0.532 Western Value Pack
1.009 Western Value Pack
 
Try the Aguila if your worried about price, I was surprised I only tried 2 kinds but would try the bottom 2 on your list if I could find them for sure. Federal Target 711b is another cheap one to try that can be ok in some.
Eley club and rws club are a waste of time IMO - SK std way better for about same price.
The SK/RWS rifle match ones are a bit behind center-x.
I'm trying rws pistol target now and is close to rifle match.

Center x is about as much as I want to spend so haven't tried the pricer eleys, but it is pretty good and consistent in 3 of em here, it has almost put my stock 77/22 in the 50yd challenge.

I would run SK std plus and then center x to be fancy, anyone of those on your list could be great in your gun though. The last year or 2 being shooting more 22 for accuracy and having fun learning as I go.
 
Buy a box of every ammo you can find. One of my semis loves that automatch stuff best. My jw25 loves thunderbolts best. blazer almost liked as much by all my rimfires.
 
I've tried most of the RWS stuff and Lapua Centre X in 4 different rifles( a 40X, 2 annies and a savage) Centre X shot the best in all 4 of them consistently, not surprising as its the most expensive by far. Next was RWS rifle match, it shot best in 3 of the 4 rifles next to the Centre X and RWS pistol match shot better than RWS rifle match in one of the annies but not as good at the centre X.

If your testing and its calm I would suggest testing at 100yds rather than 50. Things really start to show up at the further distance. However if's its much more than a breeze not so much as it will turn into a crap shoot.
 
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