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Tavor anyone's thoughts?
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tactical link single point bungee sling.
The Tavor is an awesome firearm.
Pros
+BULLPUP....though I thought they were illegal?
+Takes AR mags (LAR/Beowulf)
+Short!! Just shy of 30 inches.
+Very pointable
+Full length rail, and on the side
+Fully ambidextrious
+Easy to maintain/clean
+Very reliable...it IS made to be used in harsh desert conditions
+Fast mag changes. As fast or faster than my AR.
+Non-restricted!!!
+Threaded barrel for all types of nice stuff
+You can mail the stock to me and get an awesome paintjob.
Cons
-Few aftermarket parts
-Trigger is heavy. But it IS a bullpup
-Expensive
-"kinda" heavy....however it does have a full 18 inch barrel
-Big height over bore. On my eotech its a full 4.5 inches above the actual barrel.
-Gas blow back (I havent really experianced this)
-Cant hunt deer with it (In Alberta anyways)
Pros
+BULLPUP....though I thought they were illegal?
+Takes AR mags (LAR/Beowulf)
+Short!! Just shy of 30 inches.
+Very pointable
+Full length rail, and on the side
+Fully ambidextrious
+Easy to maintain/clean
+Very reliable...it IS made to be used in harsh desert conditions
+Fast mag changes. As fast or faster than my AR.
+Non-restricted!!!
+Threaded barrel for all types of nice stuff
+You can mail the stock to me and get an awesome paintjob.
Cons
-Few aftermarket parts
-Trigger is heavy. But it IS a bullpup
-Expensive
-"kinda" heavy....however it does have a full 18 inch barrel
-Big height over bore. On my eotech its a full 4.5 inches above the actual barrel.
-Gas blow back (I havent really experianced this)
-Cant hunt deer with it (In Alberta anyways)
Did you just tie paracord through it?
Only ambi if you have the left hand bolt and swap it out. Unable to transition from shoulder to shoulder without eating brass or severely compromising your ability to run your optic.
I'm not crazy about having the chamber next to my face either.
Mechanical Offset(distance between the optical plain and bore line) is atrocious, making short range shooting difficult.
Reloads are far from fast with any bullpup rifle, ergonomics are non existent.
Going prone can also be a problem with the magazine acting as a monopod in the rear.
Fixed LOP is a deal breaker in the 21st century. Shorter shooters and the wearing of clothing and/or gear make adjustable stocks a necessity, especially considering the intended market for this rifle.
The Shorter overall length is a near zero benefit unless you do CQB type shooting.
TDC
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Yeah, TDC's obviously not a fan... 
For those interested in a Tavor, my (and other Tavor owner's) recommendations are to handle one, and if possible - see if you can find someone who'll let you try it out. It can really be a love-hate relationship with certain black rifles, and the Tavor is no different.
For those interested in a Tavor, my (and other Tavor owner's) recommendations are to handle one, and if possible - see if you can find someone who'll let you try it out. It can really be a love-hate relationship with certain black rifles, and the Tavor is no different.
I actually find mag changes very fast. I sure do.
And shooting weak side is do-able. Ive done it. All that happens is brass hits your arm kinda. Not a big deal for me anyways.
Going prone isnt an issue as well. The AR magazine can become a bipod too. THats what urban prones for!
Are you talking out of extensive experiance with running the Tavor?
And shooting weak side is do-able. Ive done it. All that happens is brass hits your arm kinda. Not a big deal for me anyways.
Going prone isnt an issue as well. The AR magazine can become a bipod too. THats what urban prones for!
Are you talking out of extensive experiance with running the Tavor?
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Most of the complaints about the Tavor are from AR owners who are somewhat set in their ways...
I'm not going to do a tit-for-tat rebuttal of TDC's points other than to say that most of them are either negligible, moot or exaggerated.
TV-PressPass
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Mountains, Alberta
Most of the complaints I hear about the Tavor are from American's who think bull-pups are "new fangled"
Its worth noting that the Gas Mark went away for me. I've described this before to people, how I used to get the mark when I first started shooting, but don't at all now. But when I let new shooters try the Tavor they sometimes still get that smudge from the gas.
Its worth noting that the Gas Mark went away for me. I've described this before to people, how I used to get the mark when I first started shooting, but don't at all now. But when I let new shooters try the Tavor they sometimes still get that smudge from the gas.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
TV-PressPass
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Mountains, Alberta
I also like the mag change a lot when I'm not doing it like a retard.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Mine was never a tack-driver. Truthfully, it's probably inherently more accurate than I am.
I ordered a Tavor when I was on leave, I am looking forward to shooting it, as I have a few AR's already I decided I wanted something different. We wanted to bring some into Afghanistan ( all paperwork, permits, licensing, etc ) for Close protection and PSD work but was ultimatly decided against because of using an one of these in a Muslim country. We didn't want to go down that rabbit hole.
I am also looking into a Beowolf .50 AE upper or the 458 SOCOM upper. So in the meantime I will use mine when I come home on my leave rotations.
I am also looking into a Beowolf .50 AE upper or the 458 SOCOM upper. So in the meantime I will use mine when I come home on my leave rotations.
Support side is "do able"? So how do you achieve a proper cheek weld and use your sights/optic without severely canting the rifle?
As for reloads, I have yet to see anyone who runs one, run it with some sort of efficiency or competency. Reaching into your armpit is far from ergonomical. Add some gear or heavy clothing and a fast reload isn't going to happen.
Urban prone is great, if the situation permits it. Should you need to shoot from the standard prone position you're gonna have a hard time with it. How well does SBU prone work for you?
My experience with the Tavor is limited, but I did run one for a couple hours and was far from impressed. The fixed LOP and inability to transition shoulders are the biggest issues. As I said, there is no advantage for the majority of users unless they're involved with CQB type shooting. Non restricted is a huge benefit, which negates the "compact" benefit of a bullpup design.
TDC
Let's do a AR15 vs. Tavor comparison... oh, wait. You can't leave the range with your AR15...
You can't legally take your AR in the field, physically you can, there's a big difference.
TDC
Matt_dal123
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Just for the record tv press, (great vids by the way) the SA80A2 can be fired from the left hand side. The curved cocking handle prevents brass from slamming into your chops. However it's main design was for right hand fire.
just sold mine.. wayyy overpriced... no that fun to shoot, no accesories, square cheek rest not comfy, and dont get me going on the trigger! But it is a good rifle to do urban ops in Gaza! non-rest is really the only cool thing about it until...you give the dealer your debit card!
