Tavor FAQ (updated 08 December, 2008)

adancingmonkey said:
Why the $700 price difference between the Canadian TAR-21 and the US SAR-21?
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Ah so many similar questions . . .

Here! Try this!

The best way to think of it now is that there are four kinds of Tavors available in Canada.

Gen 1 was imported by Canada ammo, and came with a Mepro 21 optic clamped to the barrel. Some 15" IDF CTAR barrels also came in during this time period. Looks like this:

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The Gen 1.5 was a $300 upgrade available for the last two Can-Am batches of Tavors. Gen 1.5 is identical in every way, except that it included a factory pica-tinny rail and its Mepro 21 was quick detach. Many people with Gen 1 Tavors have converted them to Gen 1.5 to allow for more optics than just the Meprolight. Looks like this:

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Gen 2 Tavors were brought in by North Sylva, and feature a full flattop rail. Most of these have integral BUIS and often come with some unusual iron sights off the shelf. These units use a lighter polymer body and have a different texture than the Gen 1 and 1.5 models.

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IWI US Tavors have been imported by IrunGuns, although I've never seen one on Canadian soil. These units come with 16" or 18" barrels. They are restricted, feature a lighter trigger, and have QD sling mounts in the hand guard and rear receiver. They are a flattop with integral BUIS, and have a body that is very similar to the Gen 2. Looks like this:

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All Canadian Tavors are under the TAR-21 model name. The IWI US Tavors are called SAR-21s, on account of their unique trigger pack and receiver insert. The IWI US Tavors seem to be compatible in terms of barrels with Canadian Tavors, but BCG and trigger packs are certainly not.

Here's an Israeli Tavor piston & BCG

Here's an IWI US Tavor piston and BCG
 
Hopefully I can answer a few questions in a few days. There were 20 or so T's coming to Canada, I'm on the list.
 
TV-PressPass said:
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The Bruce Lee of tactical rifles... do want!

I talked about this on another thread, but I think it shouldn't be too much trouble for IWI US to install some 18.5 barrels on their guns and have them sell here. The barrels are all made in Israel anyway, correct? So it's just a matter of ordering them in and us canucks creating the demand.
 
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there is a gun enthusiast on another forum trying to argue that a civilian, semi-auto Tavor (as sold in Canada) can be easily converted to full automatic simply by adding the fully auto trigger group and bolt carrier group from an IDF TAR-21. He also insists that the Tavor is an assault rifle, because the TAR-21 (IDF version) is, regardless of the fact that the Tavor is semi-auto only.

Discuss.
 
Just had my Tavor arrive and I'm shocked how comfortable it is to hold , I'm in love!

Tavor with Trijicon T24 mounted on a Burris PEPR and .50 Beowulf mag

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I hazard to think it will still be easier to export them from Israel than deal with the US State Department and their export permits.
 
Odd Shot said:
Discuss.
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I'm going to come off as judgemental here, but a bunch of bikers arguing over what an "assalt riffle" is, does not qualify as reliable information.

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"Originally Posted by IMAWILDPARTY
The SU16, by your definition (and mine) would not be considered an assault rifle. You would not consider it an assault rifle because a military never used it in such a role and I would not consider it one because it has no select-fire capability.

Now, if tomorrow a military adopted some version of the SU16 with select-fire capability(AKA redesigned it as an assault rifle), would all the SU16's become assault rifles overnight, regardless of select-fire capability? .

If it was redesigned as an assault rifle? It wouldn't be an SU16 now would it? It would be an assault rifle because you just said, redesigned as an assault rifle for military service.

Originally Posted by IMAWILDPARTY
The m16-a2 has select fire capability - semi-auto and burst. It is an assault rifle as per the US military definition, no issues there.

Read what I quoted. Busa Bob said auto fire and semi auto. the M16 A2 doesn't have auto fire. Read acarefully so you comprehend the entire conversation and its context.

Originally Posted by IMAWILDPARTY
You're wrong if you're talking about getting caught re-entering Canada, or after being in Canada

I'm not talking about re entering Canada. So, another point missed on your part. Effort to read man, make it.


Originally Posted by IMAWILDPARTY
The fact that every US state may have its own criminal charges concerning firearms means you probably will find 'assault rifles' somewhere in law.

I'm talking about the ATF, law, definition and resulting conviction. ATF is a NATIONAL agency so, I don't know what "every state may have" has to do with anything.

Someone post why Websters is not the authority on word definitions first off, then someone post why "semi automatic assault rifle" isn't an actual thing.
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Yeah. Those guys sound authoritative. :rolleyes:
 
andrew3081 said:
We might see it in 2020.
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What made you pick that date? So far away... :S

I'm also wondering if the offset rail above the forearm would be better on the left side of the gun? For better access to the light/laser/whatever you decide to mount on it? Then you can rack the charging handle inverse-HK style.
 
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