tavor for ar trade
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blaxsun
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Yes, parts for AR15s are more readily available than for the TAR or X95. One is non-restricted and the other isn't, so there is that to consider as well (although I guess if SHTF all bets are off). In terms of weight, the Tavor is 7lbs and change (depending on model), so while it's a bit heavier than say a 10.5" AR it's also lighter than an SL8 or SAN. As for the magwell, mine works perfect with anything. You can give it the FrogLube treatment if you really want it slicked.
The Tavor is more compact and the ergonomics are better - but you do need to spend some coin on upgrading the trigger system, gasket cover and fire selector. The AR15 is simply more modular and there is an endless supply of aftermarket parts and upgrades (think LEGO for big kids).
blaxsun
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The gasket cover upgrade (Manticore, Midway) eliminates "Tavor eye" by providing a better seal on the receiver for the opposite side of the ejection port. The fire selector is to improve the functionality (not full auto) with the addition of an ambidextrous lever (it's easier to flip to safe from the opposite side).
I've owned a Tavor for a couple of years now, and shot many times without eye protection (insert flaming here), and never experienced "Tavor eye". I've also shot friends Tavors and never experienced it either, and neither have they.
Tavor eye, IIRC, is more an issue for people who run it suppressed, which is illegal in Canada. I wouldn't say it's something you need to start buying aftermarket parts for.
And it doesn't prevent FTF/FTE's. Those are almost non existent in a Tavor right out of the box.
And if you're looking for a SHTF rifle (I doubt any of us will ever actually see a SHTF scenario in our lifetime, but to each their own), I would take the Tavor over an AR. Much more compact. Easier to get in and out of vehicles with. Easier to traverse buildings with when salvaging for supplies or what have you. More balanced. Easier to carry around for long periods of time.
If you're looking for a project where you absolutely need to customize and replace every piece of the rifle with aftermarket parts, go for an AR.
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Tavors come with two extraction ports (one on either side of the gun) so depending on whether you are right handed or left handed one of the ports will be used and the other blocked off
The part Blaxsun refers to is an upgraded better sealing cover for the port that isn't used as the standard part is lacking in this area resulting in blowback
If you want to become a better shot, maybe switch to a .22lr platform. You can do a lot more practice shooting for way less money. Best of luck.
J_K_S
I understand your reasoning with reference to parts and availability. As Blaxsun pointed out restricted/non-restricted doesn't matter much in that situation. I have to agree, with the following caveat: it depends on whether the SHTF situation occurs rapidly or over an extended period. An EMP that sends us back to the stone age means all bets are off. The gradual breakdown of a financial collapse, leading to SHTF, may give the government time to institute martial law in an attempt to slow the decline. First thing in that case would be the outlaw of personally owned firearms. Non-restricted = prove I've got it. Don't know what you're talking about. Sold that to John in Canmore after the LGR. Restricted = knock, knock, knock.....you have a registered firearm at this residence. And at that point in time, John in Canmore won't do you any good.
I get it really bad with mine. Try a few double taps in quick succession, that ought' to bet you your black eye ring prize.
Op, have you considered saving and getting both? I'm just going to throw this out there, the chances of the fan getting the &$@& here, in Canada, is so low that I wouldn't be concerned much with it. I know it's a romantic fantasy for a lot of people though.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Confused here... I thought you said you owned a Tavor.
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I do prefer the AR platform for ergonomics and weight ... that being said, the Tavor has some advantages.
The fact that the Tavor is non restricted at this time is probably the biggest plus. The fact that it has an 18.6" barrel in a compact configuration is another plus.
There are methods you can use to make mag drills faster, and of course some mags fit a bit snugly in the Tavor mag well. I have found nylon mags in particular to be problematic, but steel or aluminum from good manufacturers work just fine.
I would also add that I found the Tavor to be extremely durable, so your concern about parts may be somewhat overblown.
When Canada Ammo brought in the first Tavor rifles for evaluation, I had the opportunity to shoot and test one. Within only about a years time one of the sample rifles had a round count well in excess of 20,000 and was acting a bit finicky. All it took was a thorough cleaning and it was back in top form again. As far as I know the rifle is still in good shooting condition and has required no parts to be replaced.
In sum I would think a Tavor will suit you as well as an AR platform, with some minor advantages and disadvantages.
Ok...
1: Tavor is built like a facking tank, actually no it's built to be run over by a facking tank and still fire!
2: Since it's built like a tank, you don't need spare parts aside from the spare parts kits they sell at Brownells!
3: Do you right now at this moment actually own a Tavor?
4: If you do own a Tavor, Have you seen the action and the size of the moving parts? ITS BUILT LIKE A FACKING TANK!
5: Why are your even considering this, just go and buy an AR and keep your Tavor, a s&w AR is under 700!
1: Tavor is built like a facking tank, actually no it's built to be run over by a facking tank and still fire!
2: Since it's built like a tank, you don't need spare parts aside from the spare parts kits they sell at Brownells!
3: Do you right now at this moment actually own a Tavor?
4: If you do own a Tavor, Have you seen the action and the size of the moving parts? ITS BUILT LIKE A FACKING TANK!
5: Why are your even considering this, just go and buy an AR and keep your Tavor, a s&w AR is under 700!
