Since you don't know who Canada Ammo, I am going assume you didn't buy it new, if you are having problems with feeding, check you bolt or piston to see if there is any excessive wear on the finish, that is a good indication it is grinding on somthing and slowing down the action, look at your bolt return spring and the spring guide makesure it hasn't been altered or bend out of shape.
Tavor Stoppages . . . . please help
- Thread starter skrypnyk
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Try not to get too pissed off about it since the problem will get solved and you will end up with a reliable rifle.
Where are you located? Maybe you're close enough to someone else with a Tavor they can take a quick look at it. Something may have been re-assembled wrong after field stripping.
I would go shoot it again and bring a camera with you:
Document every malfunction with a quick description of what happened and take a picture. Post the descriptions and picture on gunnutz and someone will likely find the cause.
I have a Tavor and I haven't had a stoppage yet. I know you said you've ruled out the mags but I would still try another type of AR mag to see if that works. I would also try different ammo. Most guns have some quirks, especially when they are new. Your rifle might now like a particular type of ammo (or the ammo could have been stored wrong or just poor quality) or a specific magazine or brand of magazine.
Where are you located? Maybe you're close enough to someone else with a Tavor they can take a quick look at it. Something may have been re-assembled wrong after field stripping.
I would go shoot it again and bring a camera with you:
Document every malfunction with a quick description of what happened and take a picture. Post the descriptions and picture on gunnutz and someone will likely find the cause.
I have a Tavor and I haven't had a stoppage yet. I know you said you've ruled out the mags but I would still try another type of AR mag to see if that works. I would also try different ammo. Most guns have some quirks, especially when they are new. Your rifle might now like a particular type of ammo (or the ammo could have been stored wrong or just poor quality) or a specific magazine or brand of magazine.
I have not seen a single stoppage in my Tavor. No fail to Feed/Fire/Extract or Eject. If the bolt isn't going fully forward into battery on a live round, perhaps the bullet profile is snagging on feedramp (as seen with softpoint ammo in my older AR or Tavor if the bolt is eased forward). I've fired FMJ Norinco, along with Winchester Ballistic Silver-Tip, and Federal 62 grain Bonded soft point... all without issue.
Like many others have already said - a more detailed description of the stoppage would help in trying to narrow down your issue...
Like many others have already said - a more detailed description of the stoppage would help in trying to narrow down your issue...
I probably shot 5000 rds through the Tavor. I had used Reminton Green box, PMC, Winchester white box, AE 55 gr and 60 something grain. The slide always locked back unless I am touching or pushing down the bolt release.
If the bolt release is compressed (say using a rear bag), the slide will not lock open even when the mag is empty.
If the bolt release is compressed (say using a rear bag), the slide will not lock open even when the mag is empty.
Failure To Feed
Gas Stoppages
Bolt not locking fully forward
With limited info that you have provided, I will try to help.
Failure to feed - I assume the round is jammed. I had this happend when the mag follower was tilted. The slide moved forward and picked up a round but the slide jammed the round at the start of the chamber. The movement was so hard that it pushed the bullet back into the brass.
Gas Stoppages - I do not know what you means. The slide not racking back. Was your trigger pull about 7 lb (instead of the 10 lb pull)? Were you firing the rifle sideway or upside down? If it is yes to both questions, a spring on the trigger group may be caught and jammed the slide when it is trying to rack backwards.
Bolt not locking fully forward-do not baby the rifle by gently easing the cocking handle forward. Rack the cocking handle back and let go the handle. If you ease the handle forward, you can have double feed.
Gas Stoppages
Bolt not locking fully forward
With limited info that you have provided, I will try to help.
Failure to feed - I assume the round is jammed. I had this happend when the mag follower was tilted. The slide moved forward and picked up a round but the slide jammed the round at the start of the chamber. The movement was so hard that it pushed the bullet back into the brass.
Gas Stoppages - I do not know what you means. The slide not racking back. Was your trigger pull about 7 lb (instead of the 10 lb pull)? Were you firing the rifle sideway or upside down? If it is yes to both questions, a spring on the trigger group may be caught and jammed the slide when it is trying to rack backwards.
Bolt not locking fully forward-do not baby the rifle by gently easing the cocking handle forward. Rack the cocking handle back and let go the handle. If you ease the handle forward, you can have double feed.
My Tavor is incredibly picky about ammo. The American Eagles seem to work the best. The cheap MFS ammo will not even cycle the action. You can't put a round in the chamber by pulling back the cocking handle and letting it slide forward. You have to have the bolt locked back to the rear, slide in a full mag and then hit the slide release. With most ammo this then allows you to empty a magazine without a problem but some of it causes failure after failure ( either feeding or ejecting ) I had purchased a large amount of MFS FMJ but ended up giving it to a friend with an Armalite that promptly blasted all of it off without a hiccup. It is frustrating that such an expensive arm is so finicky. It's kind of a shame that it isn't even half the rifle my previous T97 was. But that's another story........
Is the Op rod bent? That's the only time I have ever had an issue with mine. It was my fault and Canamm helped me out huge. Mine eats any and all ammo including handloads. I do have the issue with LAR 15 mags needing to be smacked in pretty hard to properly seat when loaded with 10rds. Otherwise all other mags work fine including PMAGs.
Nothing there makes sense. Pulling th bolt back and letting it go performs the exact same action as locking it back and hitting the bolt release.
I'm guessing you ride your charging handle and that is the problem. Pull it back and LET GO. It will work.
Also, your mags might be pinned too tight and you can't seat them on a closed bolt. Is that what you mean?
i think what he means is letting it gently slide forward not pulling it back and letting it go. no semi works right if you gently forward.
out of 4 pages i have seen the question of ammo asked multiple times, and the OP keeps skipping over the answer. leads me to think he is shooting reloads that are made incorrectly.
i have shot hunting ammo and FMJ through mine with no problems.
I have to agree since OP haven't posted anything comments sice the initial post.
Ok, I had no F'en clue what OP meant. I saw people asking him what type of ammo he used. . . . my user name is Skrypnyk. . that would have helped. I was monitoring this daily waiting for a reply worth responding to. . . still waiting.. .
I have been shooting 55grn American Eagle, and 65grn stuff as well. Its all factory ammo, no reloads.
I have downloaded the armorers manual, however I have still gone only to a field strip. I learned a great deal about the weapon with no avail. Everything inside looks like its in good shape as compared to the armorers manual. The next step in this regards would be to send it to Canada Ammo I suppose.
I have shot out of USGI mags, IWI Factory mags, P-mags, RRA mags, Bushmaster Mags. All have stoppages. ITS NOT THE MAGS! The mags are all types and shoot very well in AR-15's and RA-XCR. I watched two pages of replies (after my clarification on mags) of people asking me to check my mags.
I am about 5 months out of the Army as reg force infantry, I know how to clean a rifle as well as anyone I know. I have reassembled correctly. I am a very good shooter with guns that fire. I do not ride my action forward. So I just ignored the comments of the resident dicks
I will describe the stoppages in painful detail. . .
Weapon firing, weapon firing. . . weapon stops.
I cant my weapon to the right, the bolt is fully forward. with no round in the chamber( do I really need to photograph that for you?) . . I check the Mag. Its properly seated. . I re-#### and continue firing. . ( this happens 1 out of 10 rounds)
Weapon firing, weapon firing. . . weapon stops.
I cant my weapon to the right, the bolt is partiality forward, there has been a double feed. (do I really need to take a picture?) thats 2 out of 10 rounds
Weapon firing, weapon firing. . . weapon stops.
I cant my weapon to the right, the Bolt is partially forward; its almost closed however it failed to completely chamber the round, lest sai .25'' still visible (1 out of 10)
Sometimes the mag will empty with the action forward.
So if you can add. . . thats 4/10 rounds being stoppages on average. . .
There. . . hope that helps you guys
I have been shooting 55grn American Eagle, and 65grn stuff as well. Its all factory ammo, no reloads.
I have downloaded the armorers manual, however I have still gone only to a field strip. I learned a great deal about the weapon with no avail. Everything inside looks like its in good shape as compared to the armorers manual. The next step in this regards would be to send it to Canada Ammo I suppose.
I have shot out of USGI mags, IWI Factory mags, P-mags, RRA mags, Bushmaster Mags. All have stoppages. ITS NOT THE MAGS! The mags are all types and shoot very well in AR-15's and RA-XCR. I watched two pages of replies (after my clarification on mags) of people asking me to check my mags.
I am about 5 months out of the Army as reg force infantry, I know how to clean a rifle as well as anyone I know. I have reassembled correctly. I am a very good shooter with guns that fire. I do not ride my action forward. So I just ignored the comments of the resident dicks
I will describe the stoppages in painful detail. . .
Weapon firing, weapon firing. . . weapon stops.
I cant my weapon to the right, the bolt is fully forward. with no round in the chamber( do I really need to photograph that for you?) . . I check the Mag. Its properly seated. . I re-#### and continue firing. . ( this happens 1 out of 10 rounds)
Weapon firing, weapon firing. . . weapon stops.
I cant my weapon to the right, the bolt is partiality forward, there has been a double feed. (do I really need to take a picture?) thats 2 out of 10 rounds
Weapon firing, weapon firing. . . weapon stops.
I cant my weapon to the right, the Bolt is partially forward; its almost closed however it failed to completely chamber the round, lest sai .25'' still visible (1 out of 10)
Sometimes the mag will empty with the action forward.
So if you can add. . . thats 4/10 rounds being stoppages on average. . .
There. . . hope that helps you guys
