Tavor Stoppages . . . . please help

Sounds like the bolt is short stroking. Have you cleaned the gas tube at all? Is the rifle brand new (are you the first owner)?

OP means Original Poster, as in the poster who started the thread. Who the hell did you think we were asking questions to? :confused:
 
I have cleaned the gas tube, I just used the brush that came with my Tavor cleaning kit.

The rifle was used and the previous owner did say that he had some stoppages, however it was reported as having only 200rds through it at the time. And he was the first owner.
 
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I'll agree with Armedsask that the cycle of your bolt is not 100%. Unless there is a broken or damaged part, I think a "really good" cleaning is in order. I understand that you've just left the military, and have had weapons maintenance training, however it's typically platform specific, ie. issued C7 or C8. I find that any courses I've been on where these are the primary weapon being used, that there is no shortage of oil being deployed, and the guns are very "drippy". At a facility I attended in North Carolina, instructors had spray cans of break-free in their cargo pockets, and when the guns got sluggish, out came the juice.

The Tavor on the other hand doesn't require this same level of petroleum dependency that is found in your typical D.I. AR operating system. Mine are quick to clean, and never as soiled as the AR's I use.

All that being said, give the armorer's manual another read, and do a basic field strip of the rifle, and clean out all the old oil and crud that remains inside the gun. If you have the ability to do it, you may want to remove the barrel (read instructions thoroughly and take out cocking rod before turning the retention mechanism, otherwise you're gonna be ordering a new one from CanadaAmmo). With the barrel out, you can remove the gas cylinder assembly and give it a good cleaning and inspection. As well, you can check the gas passageway to ensure that it isn't obstructed partially, and really clean the chamber area where the locking lugs engage - de-carbonify (my own word) the locking lug area. Again, following the armorer's manual instructions, you can do a full bolt and bolt carrier guide disassembly cleaning and inspection. With all parts cleaned and lubed properly, you can slide the gas piston into the gas cylinder tube to see if there is a close tolerance, and that it isn't hanging up on anything.

Reassemble the rifle - function test it, then off to the range. You can try loading one round into a mag at a time. On firing, it should lock the action open after each shot. If it does this, the short stroking issue has been eliminated. Then move on to multiple rounds in the magazine and test for function again. Finger's crossed it works.
 
Trooper, thanks I will be stripping and cleaning tonight (to include the gas tube) and I will be hopefully off to the range tomorrow with some milspec ammo.

I will let everyone know what exactly happens.
 
I forgot to mention yesterday that the gas cylinder tune slides forward of it's locks before it lifts out. You shouldn't have to pry it.

Good Luck - I feel your solution is close at hand.
 
Get the chamber and headspace checked. Maybe the reamer was worn or they didn't cut it deep enough/didn't do something right.

Detail it and look for cracks or bends in a strong light or by looking down straight parts. There could be something out of spec in sizings or locations of rails/magwell.
 
skrypnyk,

Sounds like short stroking to me too.
Had a simmilar issue with a IDF CTAR. Externally everything looked OK.
Shot the rifle in total darkness wich confirmed my theory.
There was a leakage between the barrel and tha gas block/sight base.

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I could see clearly flash escaping from that area.
Can you shoot the rifle in darknes to see if you have the same problem?

Of course propper cleaning always helps :
http://youtu.be/iUFhBd8bfOA
 
ok all, here is a little update. . . .

I have done all the stripping and range prep. I will be at the range in 2 weeks. at that time I will bring a video camera and detail anything that does or does not happen.

at that time I will post a new thread and remove this one.

if at that time we cant solve the issue then I will ship it off to Canada Ammo.

Thanks for the suggestions
 
Long Lost UPDATE!!

So I was all set to go the the range to do the testing and filming with 10 kinds of ammo and 8 diffrent coy's mags when I had a realization. When you drop 3k on a rifle, it has to work every time. Load, Ready, Click, Boom. Its just that simple. I promptly sold it for a loss and moved on with my life. (away from black to bolt action)

I appreciate those that tried to help, and rest assured that I applied many of your solutions in an attempt to fix the problem. I was just totally unwilling to do any machining or armorers stuff to get it going, in my opinion that is what the MilSurp EE is for, thats where you buy things to tinker with and Fixer'uppers.

However I am sorry that I just let the post fade into oblivion, that was inconsiderate to those who tried to help or owned tavors and were learning from it.

End of story, it sold with the problems never resolved. Moderator maybe let the world read my surrender and apology for a day or two and then delete the thread, thanks!
 
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