I have both those guns... i like AR15 much better for the reason that its easier to handle and stock can be adjusted... Ar15 has way more after market stuff available ... for the price of Tavor get ACR non restricted... or just a kick as AR15 if u don't care about restricted or non restricted...
Tavor VS AR15
- Thread starter tpirovol
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I don't own a Tavor doubt I ever will but I have had ARs since 1982, had a Colt, Palmento, and my last one a Olympic Arms 11.5" CAR-15 5.56 (this one since 1992) and really like it. Has a metal sliding stock is old school but is really accurate and just goes bang. 
I have shot against 20" ARs and I do pretty good against them, I know it's old school and an Oly but it just shoots so well cannot part with her.
Love the take down pins, the CMMG .22 rimfire kit option.
Hate the Restricted status cannot ever remember a 5.56 jam but I clean my rifle after every range day but the CMMG kit will jam after lots of shooting.
Anyone can pick up an AR and just shoot it.
I really do like the Tavor for a bullpup but an AR just has so many parts everywhere. Cannot imagine something breaking on the Tavor in a SHTF scenario and not being able to find parts. Also part of my SHTF bug out kit has 2000 rounds of rimfire, 4 CMMG .22 mags, and the rimfire conversion kit, as no ammo means your black gun is nothing more than a poorly balanced club......
Randy
I have shot against 20" ARs and I do pretty good against them, I know it's old school and an Oly but it just shoots so well cannot part with her. Love the take down pins, the CMMG .22 rimfire kit option.
Hate the Restricted status cannot ever remember a 5.56 jam but I clean my rifle after every range day but the CMMG kit will jam after lots of shooting.
Anyone can pick up an AR and just shoot it.
I really do like the Tavor for a bullpup but an AR just has so many parts everywhere. Cannot imagine something breaking on the Tavor in a SHTF scenario and not being able to find parts. Also part of my SHTF bug out kit has 2000 rounds of rimfire, 4 CMMG .22 mags, and the rimfire conversion kit, as no ammo means your black gun is nothing more than a poorly balanced club......
Randy
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angryeyebrows
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I've owned almost every type of commercially available black rifle in Canada, some more times than others. I've had three different Tavors, one from each generation. I bought one of the first when they originally came into the country. For AR15s, I cannot even count the number. Some were bought new, some used, most I've built from the ground up.
As far as comparing the two platforms, both have positives and negatives. The Tavor works well, is very robust and it's as accurate as can be expected from a stock, service rifle. I'd say the AR system is more accurate, if I had to choose. This is likely due to the gas impingement as opposed to the piston operation. Ergonomics are OK for the Tavor, but I'm probably just more used to an AR layout from military service and years of shooting them. I will say, that with practice, one can overcome almost any differences between the two systems. The Tavor isn't light, but isn't super heavy either. The bullpup design carries its weight well. In general the AR is going to probably be lighter.
The quality of the Tavor, is good but not great, and if I were redesigning it, there are areas I'd change for sure. It's also quite tall and the height over bore is one of the tallest I've seen. It seems to me that there is a lot of wasted space and it could be made more efficient. The AR is definitely sleeker of the two. In my opinion, the best thing the Tavor has going for it is it's short, very maneuverable, overall length. It's footprint is about the size of a typical 10" barrelled AR. Pretty awesome when you've got a full size barrel in that small of a package. When it comes to real world use (personal protection), I wouldn't hesitate to carry a Tavor, but it wouldn't be my first choice. The AR would.
As far as comparing the two platforms, both have positives and negatives. The Tavor works well, is very robust and it's as accurate as can be expected from a stock, service rifle. I'd say the AR system is more accurate, if I had to choose. This is likely due to the gas impingement as opposed to the piston operation. Ergonomics are OK for the Tavor, but I'm probably just more used to an AR layout from military service and years of shooting them. I will say, that with practice, one can overcome almost any differences between the two systems. The Tavor isn't light, but isn't super heavy either. The bullpup design carries its weight well. In general the AR is going to probably be lighter.
The quality of the Tavor, is good but not great, and if I were redesigning it, there are areas I'd change for sure. It's also quite tall and the height over bore is one of the tallest I've seen. It seems to me that there is a lot of wasted space and it could be made more efficient. The AR is definitely sleeker of the two. In my opinion, the best thing the Tavor has going for it is it's short, very maneuverable, overall length. It's footprint is about the size of a typical 10" barrelled AR. Pretty awesome when you've got a full size barrel in that small of a package. When it comes to real world use (personal protection), I wouldn't hesitate to carry a Tavor, but it wouldn't be my first choice. The AR would.
Thanks angryeyebrows, my best friend is CDN ex-military used the C8 and swears by them and like you he said the same thing that an AR is his 1st choice. I am biased though as after 30 years I have too much muscle memory stored up.
Randy
Randy
The fastest growing sliver of the 2 % of the semi-auto market not dominated by the AR-15 or AK47.
84wh1
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Hey it's still nice to see people moving away from 65 year old weapon design and get into modern times!
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Well boys I shoot everything from black powder to black rifles and anything in between. As a kid growing up I was constantly beaten up by the cool kids for having the wrong opinions and as an old fart today I am even LESS tactful than I was as a kid! I am probably the most non-biased fella that will comment on this issue.
Tavor vs AR15? Tavor - hands down. The AR15 is fine for a starter rifle and even for your full time 'go-to' gun. It functions in hell and high water - (the AK and SKS crowd are invited to get stuffed) - it is accurate enough to own the matches at Camp Perry and it is battle tested out the wazoo. It has only one fatal flaw:
It's BORING!
That is why so much time is spent pimping them out! At the end of the day, when all is said and done and all the bling has been added - it is still just an AR. None of this is meant to take anything away from the AR because that is what the squaddie wants - no surprises, no gimmicks, just something that goes BANG - every time, all the time. I have guns for that purpose too - but instead of the AR I went to the M1A! Everything's been done for you: your load is a 168gr. BTHP on 41.5gr of 4895! Now shut up and go shoot!!! To me the AR is kinda like that.
The Tavor is new. It handles like a dream. It eats everything you feed it but it will tell you when it gets a load it really likes. The trigger is a pig, and the pig would be easier to shoot off benched sandbags than the Tavor is. It certainly isn't a bench rest gun. I clean mine once a month and that is just a formality. She's short and will stash on the canoe or in the Zodiac and handle well from the boat too, I suppose. Slinging up with it and shooting from the formal positions is a novel experience too - and it CAN be done, sort of. Mine throws all of its brass into the same spot so picking up spent brass for reloading is a snap. I have seen the AR guys futzing around with brass catchers and deflectors and they STILL end up looking for brass. One thing is certain - the guy that thinks the Tavor shooter is undergunned is wrong - potentially lethally wrong. You can say what you want about ergonomics; the only guy whose opinion matters - is yours. But for me...I LOVE the way the Tavor handles and feels.
I personally have left the AR behind. I like it, there is nothing wrong with it and at some point - EVERYONE should own a good AR. But for the weekend warrior and ageing stubfart like Yours Truly - I only shoot for meat and for fun and this little Jewish rifle is the way to go.
The 1911 at 103 years old is still my favorite pistol of all time.
I'll still take it over my HK45 which is said to be one of the best modern combat pistols.
Love it! Gee if you need a hammer spring or mag for the .45 ACP let me guess like an AR the parts are everywhere.
Kind of like blowing a waterpump in Biggar Sask in your Chevy while driving thru Sat and grabbing one from NAPA or waiting for week for a VW Tourag.
Rear echelon still carry m4 and m16, front line troops in the Golan and near gaza and carry the tavor
ChrisAlston
Regular
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I have both and I love both, I honestly would have a hard time picking one over the other. Both are awesome guns.
SwL_Wildcat
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Not if you have a decent AR. I have 6K rounds through my MR223 and no stoppages. I plan on cleaning it once I get a stoppage, just to see how long it will go. I even use dirty Norinco ammo...
