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Looking at my pay stub I'm due for a fairly sizable tax return so I will get a new toy. This new toy will be used for over looking farm land for coyote hunting or blasting unsuspecting crows but mainly targets ranging from 200-800 yards. Weight is not an issue.
What I'd like is to keep it simple. Like a small caliber noreen ulr.
My wish list is
30" heavy barrel
Effective brake to stop muzzle rise. I want to see my bullet impact
Vertical pistol grip. Possible chassis. More Simplistic the better
Caliber 223 or a 6.5 creedmore or similar 6.5
I'm Ok with a single shot rifle but a bolt with a detach mag works too
I'm stuck on which action to use. I was thinking savage target action for a single shot and ease of prefit barrels

Or is there a factory offering I've over looked?
 
I would go with a Savage 12 F Class off the shelf in 6.5x284. I've seen no evidence to support the need for a muzzle brake. With a Sightron Big Sky 6-24x42 scope it is going to be about a 15 lb gun. For a little less recoil and longer barrel life, the 6BR Norma would work fine too. The 105 grain VLD will get you out to 600 yards. With a 15 lb gun the 6BR will be like shooting a rimfire!
 
Hmmm. That could work. After swapping the stock and cerokoting it I'd be around 3 grand. That doesn't leave me much for optics.
I'm not a fan of the F class savage stock and don't want a stainless steel finish.
However krylon is cheap.
How's barrel life in the 6.5/284 compared to the smaller 6.5s?
 
elimsprint said:
This would be my pick from Savage http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/12LRP , DBM, HS Precision stock and what's not to like about 260 Rem or 6.5 Creedmore for reaching out a bit.
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I have pretty much that gun in a single shot. Mine is the LRPV with a left port in 6BR. I really like the right bolt and left port. Ideal for shooting on the bench. What I don't like is the HS Precision stock. It does not have a wide flat bottom front so it sits square in a rest without canting. I am always fighting with it to keep the vertical crosshair vertical. It does shoot well though. In 8 twist a 6BR can certainly reach out to 600 yards. Now if you are not shooting with a rest, then the flat bottom stock may not be of much value.
 
I don't like the stock design on either of those posted rifles. The rifle itself would work. I'm not stuck on a savage action but I don't mind them. Ideally I'd like to be around 3 grand with a grand of that for optics if possible.

It will be used mostly for targets and a tactical look doesn't bother me as it might help change the attitudes of new shooters who are on the fence. I will use it for hunting too

A noreen ulr in 223 would be perfect but they only make a 338 lapua and 50 bmg.
 
brybenn said:
I don't like the stock design on either of those posted rifles. The rifle itself would work. I'm not stuck on a savage action but I don't mind them. Ideally I'd like to be around 3 grand with a grand of that for optics if possible.

It will be used mostly for targets and a tactical look doesn't bother me as it might help change the attitudes of new shooters who are on the fence. I will use it for hunting too

A noreen ulr in 223 would be perfect but they only make a 338 lapua and 50 bmg.
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I wasn't meaning to slag your decision...... and don't have much else to add to this thread as you are getting into territories I am unfamiliar with.......

All I will say is that you have what I personally consider a "special windfall"...... I would encourage to use your "special windfall" on something you will keep and be proud to own......

I own a few rifles I wouldn't have owned if I hadn't had said windfall....... and I truly enjoy handling them, looking at them, and planning adventures around them.....
 
Rule number one. Wait until that tax return is in hand!
I've walked around the house like a champion thinking I was getting $6200 and ended up owing $620!
 
danastles said:
Rule number one. Wait until that tax return is in hand!
I've walked around the house like a champion thinking I was getting $6200 and ended up owing $620!
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You also like to parade around camp in long underwear with your butt crack showing while you try and wash porcupine ####e off your dog with a spring water bottle....... what's your point?....... :)

Just pickin' bud....... and it's a great point........ if I had a dollar for every time one of my employees came to me saying they "got gipped" on their taxes I would have enough money to buy you a case of axe for your dog....... :)
 
brybenn said:
I don't like the stock design on either of those posted rifles.
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I am of the thinking that form follows function. The stock of the 12 F Class is attractive to me, not because of what it looks like. It is because of the wide flat front end, a nice smooth finish, and a flat bottom rear end. All of those features is what contributes to a gun that recoils straight back and stays on target. Most of these guns are shot free recoil with your thumb on the back of the trigger guard, and finger on the trigger. Basically that is why benchrest rifles are built the way they are.

My HS Precision stock is very well built with an aluminum bedding block, which I have done a full bedding job on. However the finish of the stock is not smooth. I end up putting dryer sheets under it to try and get it to move smoothly in the front and rear rests.

I get my pleasure from punching small holes in a target, not on what the gun looks like. But, it is your tax return, and at the end of the day it is you that has to be happy.
 
I wasn't commenting on the stocks abilities rather how they fit me. I've shot several in various positions and over a bench is the only somewhat comfortable position. I want a rifle I can take back behind the barn and use over a tailgate or prone or lean over a fallen tree. Some of the areas are shooting down at an angle or up into an embankment. I find the hs precision stock very awkward for this type of shooting
 
Superbrad said:
I wasn't meaning to slag your decision...... and don't have much else to add to this thread as you are getting into territories I am unfamiliar with.......

All I will say is that you have what I personally consider a "special windfall"...... I would encourage to use your "special windfall" on something you will keep and be proud to own......

I own a few rifles I wouldn't have owned if I hadn't had said windfall....... and I truly enjoy handling them, looking at them, and planning adventures around them.....
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I totally get what you're saying. I could go buy a Cooper but I'd still be lacking a gun for my intended purpose.

When I started working on my line at work there was one other shooter. He shot trap. About 20 of the other 25 workers were against gun ownership. They didn't understand it. Now 7 have their pal and 5 have their restricted licenses with several more saving to take the courses this winter. Most of the line has fired at least several of my guns. Hunting is now understood on my line and so is gun ownership and shooting. My norc 1911 has seen nearly 2000 rounds so far. I've only put maybe 200 thru it myself. Friends and Co workers try it and love it they post pics on social media and talk about it in a positive way. I get called up and they ask if they can bring a friend out to try it. To me thats a good thing. I don't have a purpose built long range rifle. I'd love a Barrett 50 Cal but I can't afford one and I can't afford to shoot one on a regular basis and I have no place to hunt with one.
I have synthetic stocked big game bolt action rifles with big scopes but they're hunting rifles. If i could build up a long range rifle that looks and feels like a long range tactical rifle that's cheap to shoot and not 35 lbs I can let others use it. Once they use it they change their attitude toward such rifles. It may seem silly but to me that's worth 2-3 grand. Plus I get a new rifle for coyote hunting that's perfect for those days i just want to get away. Turn the phone off and just watch over a field from the fence row or climb a ridge and over look a large Meadow and hope a coyote crosses downrange or an unlucky crow lands on the ground. Or I can blast away at the range or at a buddies farm all afternoon and not go broke on the cost of ammo
 
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I normally use a 25/06 with a 75 gr Vmax at 3550 fps for coyotes. Most shots on coyotes would be less than 300 yards with a rare shot being over 500. I've taken them as far as 760 yards with my 25/06. The vmax still worked well resulting in quick kills
 
Planning is good but don't spend the money before you have it in hand. The Turd may have other plans for your cash!!!!!
 
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