Tell me about Wolves!
- Thread starter y2k
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Never saw a moose around here in the 42 years of my life, but this past month I`ve seen and filmed two. I haven`t seen them yet but Elk just moved into the area this month or so too.
My guess is the wolves have them running for their lives.
Here is the moose I saw last Friday. They sort of look out of place here.
And here they are getting chased by some of my cattle
- Location
- London, Ontario
Really? Why?
cdnredneck_t3
Regular
They are just like cougars in that respect. They kill all their competition for food.
Y2K. I live in the Hat and travel north on the 41 every day and have also seen quite a few Elk coming across the river this year. Seen 2 5X5 in the sandhill's between Burstall and Hilda the other day. Maybe I will be able to call in a wolf this year too.
In the last few years there have been HUGE elk taken east of CFB Suffields borders. There are a lot of elk in there.
50 wolves though, the mathematics just don’t work.
What’s an average wolf pack, 8,10,15, whatever. They would have to capture most of the members of multiple packs.
Then to just drop them all in there together will not work.
Dog pack dynamics dictate that they will kill each other off to reset a hierarchy.
Wandering females may or may not be accepted, wandering males generally don’t last long unless they can fight like their lives depend upon it, which it does.
50 wolves, its impossible for me to believe that, half a dozen wolves captured from the same pack and let loose in there to see what happens sounds like something Environment Canada would think is wonderful. For Gods sake don’t let hunters thin out the elk, that would be horrible.
I wouldn’t put it past anti hunting Environment Canada that there is already a proposed fine system setup if a local rancher whacks a wolf chasing their calves.
50 wolves though, the mathematics just don’t work.
What’s an average wolf pack, 8,10,15, whatever. They would have to capture most of the members of multiple packs.
Then to just drop them all in there together will not work.
Dog pack dynamics dictate that they will kill each other off to reset a hierarchy.
Wandering females may or may not be accepted, wandering males generally don’t last long unless they can fight like their lives depend upon it, which it does.
50 wolves, its impossible for me to believe that, half a dozen wolves captured from the same pack and let loose in there to see what happens sounds like something Environment Canada would think is wonderful. For Gods sake don’t let hunters thin out the elk, that would be horrible.
I wouldn’t put it past anti hunting Environment Canada that there is already a proposed fine system setup if a local rancher whacks a wolf chasing their calves.
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
Where pack sizes are normal and wolf/human interactions are limited I don't think a lone person has too much to worry about. The reverse of that situation is different. I personally know of two situations where wolves threatened hunters over the last three years in the same general area. Shots fired resolved both situations luckily. Deer numbers peaked about two years ago as has the wolf population. One pack of 25 (yes, 25) was spotted crossing a lake in the same general area last winter. Wolves are regularly seen in the cottage subdivisions. Three years ago I had to stop on the gravel access road to let mom and 7 pups cross the road. They are not showing the kind of fear of man you would expect in this particular area. Cottage owners are much more aware and careful with their children and pets now. Word is that there may be a two wolf limit on a big game tag or a new wolf tag altogether for that area. I expect that the crash in deer numbers has started. Moose seasons in the area are now closed indefinitely due to the same crash.
BTW, without any disrespect, I find it incredible that 50 wolves would be released by any wildlife department without word getting out in some sort of credible manner.
BTW, without any disrespect, I find it incredible that 50 wolves would be released by any wildlife department without word getting out in some sort of credible manner.
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
There is a 2 wolf limit in the areas that are newly closed to moose, but you have to submit a 1" square sample of belly hair/skin.
Here are the new regs: http://www.gov.mb.ca/conservation/wildlife/hunting/index.html
Then again, you can always buy a $5 open area trapping license and shoot an unlimited number during the trapping season.
To keep the Elk population down on CFB Suffield, and the Elk were put there about 20 years ago to replace the wild horses.
I am not saying you would purposely lead us astray. But, where did you hear about this wolf release?
It really sounds "fishy".
Stranger things have happened but strange rumours and stories get started and grow on their own.
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
Right, you'd have to apply for a registered trap line and buy an RTL license($10).
Fortunately, I live in Open Area.
cdnredneck_t3
Regular
Well I guess I should stick up for Y2K a bit.
It is not the first time they have done this. I'd say about 7 or 8 years ago they released wolves into Cypress Hills inter-provincial park and kept that quite. I never knew until my brother got drawn for elk and I heard one howl at daybreak. I asked the land owner and he said they released something like 20 or so. A few years later they released cougars too. I have seen pictures of local ranchers with Wolves and Cougars from being shot or trap lines.
I would say it is entirely possible that they released wolves in to Suffield.
