Do not take the course offered by this place it is a scam!!! They are not government certified and you will not get your cfsc certificate or do your exam there! Please do not wase your time and money avoid this place!!! There is not enough info on the web letting people know about their scam so spread the word and dont let others get fooled by this illegal scam!!!
Terranova armouryis a scam
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Can you elaborate on your experience and on whats going on?
Anybody can just create a new account and say something is a scam. That doesn't mean its true. As far as i'm concerned, you could just be a pissed off customer who failed his exam and didn't like the teacher.
So unless you can back your claim up with an explanation, very few people will listen to you. Including me.
Anybody can just create a new account and say something is a scam. That doesn't mean its true. As far as i'm concerned, you could just be a pissed off customer who failed his exam and didn't like the teacher.
So unless you can back your claim up with an explanation, very few people will listen to you. Including me.
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x2, details and back er up. Then you'll have some ground to stand on and I'll listen.
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Oooooh Noooos!
A baseless accusation of fraud on the inerwebz by a nameless faceless user of an anonymous account on a public forum?
Couldn't be!
A baseless accusation of fraud on the inerwebz by a nameless faceless user of an anonymous account on a public forum?
Couldn't be!
I found a similar story from years ago. Seems the OP is legit, Terranova is a study group ONLY, and cannot provide CFO approved testing. Since I have never talked to them, I don't know if they misrepresent that they are accredited.
Here's a thread in a non-firearms forum; http://forums.redflagdeals.com/pal-firearms-license-695878/#post12061806
There's a few recent (this month) youtube vids and postings about TN being a scam... but that could just be OP. But the sketchy site, god wants you to have a gun, and multiple sources saying there's actually no testing says stay away.
OP, if it's a scam, call your credit card company and start a fraud claim. They are not selling the service they advertised. Refer your CC company to the website where they say they're licensed to provide the test. No license = fraud. I'd also call the CFO's office, and perhaps the police.
Here's a thread in a non-firearms forum; http://forums.redflagdeals.com/pal-firearms-license-695878/#post12061806
There's a few recent (this month) youtube vids and postings about TN being a scam... but that could just be OP. But the sketchy site, god wants you to have a gun, and multiple sources saying there's actually no testing says stay away.
OP, if it's a scam, call your credit card company and start a fraud claim. They are not selling the service they advertised. Refer your CC company to the website where they say they're licensed to provide the test. No license = fraud. I'd also call the CFO's office, and perhaps the police.
Yeah, I just checked out their site and it looks pretty sketchy. Typos including `assault-alike rifles`, whatever those are. I don`t know if they`re legit but I certainly wouldn`t go to their company.
i took the course there. there is minor truth to the story. he isn't licensed or w/e the correct word is to issue or test anyone. he does however teach an amazing course, with all the knowledge being covered including hands on training. and he manages to do it all amazingly in one day. once you get there he immediately refunds you $80 so as that you can use it for your testing.
i took the course 4 years ago and took a stack of his business cards and have continued to send all my friends there ever since because of his availability and the fact that he does rpal and pal all in 1 day and its everything you need to know and more.
i took the course 4 years ago and took a stack of his business cards and have continued to send all my friends there ever since because of his availability and the fact that he does rpal and pal all in 1 day and its everything you need to know and more.
I took the course with them as well a few years ago. The course is basically lot of cutting corners which include the "meat & potatoes" of how to pass the written and practical test.
If you go in expecting more than this, go else where or you will be disappointed. Would not recommend to people who are clueless about guns or are stupid.
There's a few hours of lecture (his English isn't that great) and then de wat guns you can fiddle with so your not going into the exam blind. This is done in a private home, then he sends you somewhere else to write the test who have legit licences.
I can see why people would see this as I scam compared to other courses that are over the course of two days and organized.
I don't think it was more than 5 hours actually.
If you go in expecting more than this, go else where or you will be disappointed. Would not recommend to people who are clueless about guns or are stupid.
There's a few hours of lecture (his English isn't that great) and then de wat guns you can fiddle with so your not going into the exam blind. This is done in a private home, then he sends you somewhere else to write the test who have legit licences.
I can see why people would see this as I scam compared to other courses that are over the course of two days and organized.
I don't think it was more than 5 hours actually.
^^ Terrible. I hope you at least were successful in getting the license.
Jeringate, why do you think he is not licensed yet if he's been doing it for 4 years? Something tells me he's skirting the law or maybe even was a former instructor who had his own license revoked?
Either way, that's a lot of money for an unlicensed guy to teach new shooters how to pass a test.
Jeringate, why do you think he is not licensed yet if he's been doing it for 4 years? Something tells me he's skirting the law or maybe even was a former instructor who had his own license revoked?
Either way, that's a lot of money for an unlicensed guy to teach new shooters how to pass a test.
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Don't plan to biech on other gun owners but I see this hard to comprehend, the more time you spend in class is better - Biggs
meh, when I was looking to get my license done there were close to 4 month wait times everywhere within an hour and a half of toronto, so i chose him, at the time i had minimal gun knowledge but had shot a few times prior so i guess for a total n00b it prolly wouldn't be good but i found it just fine but to each their own..
Hopefully he has got his facts straight since writing "How to Get a Firearms License in Canada" on Articlebase.com. I just stumbled across it last week and couldn't help commenting:
There are a lot of inaccuracies in this poorly written article. Antique firearms don't require registration nor their owners to have a firearms licence. There is no limit on the number of firearms one can own. There is no requirement to provide a purpose for acquiring a non-restricted rifle or shotgun. The magazine capacity limits do not apply to semi-automatic rimfire rifles.
Just looked at his website and noticed that his Ottawa location is someone whose CFSC/CRFSC instructor certification was suspended a couple of months ago.
There are a lot of inaccuracies in this poorly written article. Antique firearms don't require registration nor their owners to have a firearms licence. There is no limit on the number of firearms one can own. There is no requirement to provide a purpose for acquiring a non-restricted rifle or shotgun. The magazine capacity limits do not apply to semi-automatic rimfire rifles.
Just looked at his website and noticed that his Ottawa location is someone whose CFSC/CRFSC instructor certification was suspended a couple of months ago.
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JimboJones
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The OP is semi right about this one. They coach you to the test. That is all. If you are a quick learner you might pick somthing up from it but from personal experience; I say avoid at all costs. They don't even let you keep the text books. I had to order my own.
BTW one of Terranova's testers got reviewed by the CFO last year. Many people had to retake the test at a ON CFO selected tester as a result. (myself included)
Not a problem if you have a history with firearms, know the actions and are studious. I am willing to bet half of the people in my "class" failed the second time around.
If you failed at Terranova, you either are clueless or he has learned to keep a slighty less than perfect record to keep the heat from the CFO at bay.
He gets away with this because he requests that all "attendies" to his "seminar" state they challenged the test on the form. He does not "instruct" a "course" at all.
BTW one of Terranova's testers got reviewed by the CFO last year. Many people had to retake the test at a ON CFO selected tester as a result. (myself included)
Not a problem if you have a history with firearms, know the actions and are studious. I am willing to bet half of the people in my "class" failed the second time around.
If you failed at Terranova, you either are clueless or he has learned to keep a slighty less than perfect record to keep the heat from the CFO at bay.
He gets away with this because he requests that all "attendies" to his "seminar" state they challenged the test on the form. He does not "instruct" a "course" at all.
I was pleased with them!
I wanted to get my PAL last year in Jan. Everyone I talked to said oh you have to wait till the fall to get it. I found Terra Novas website and there and it even had a listing for Sudbury which was great as most places I found were down south. I left a msg and a guy called me to schedule a date. The guy in sudbury who presented the course, I forget his name, did a great job. We were not coached, we went through the entire course. He was also able to administer the exam. It was a small group only 4 of us and we had all printed off the manual from the internet so there was no need to buy one.
Another classmate and I both expressed interest in getting our RPAL when we first arrived and between the online manual and youtube we felt we could pass the RPAL without going through the RPAL course. Our instructor contacted the CFO to inquire about it, would it be ethical, it was decided since we went though the non restricted course and exam with our instructor if he was not going to deliver the restricted course it could be a problem. He contacted another instructor so there would be no conflict of interest who would administer the RPAL test for us.
After the written and practical which the other student and I did isolated from eachother, the instructor commented that he was impressed as many people try to challenge but dont have a clue, but we were safe and spot on.
I can not speak for the terra nova as a hole but here in Sudbury they were right on the money!
Getting my application approved and my RPAL issued was another issue, however that was due to a reference having a job during the day when the RCMP called and then a mail strike.
I wanted to get my PAL last year in Jan. Everyone I talked to said oh you have to wait till the fall to get it. I found Terra Novas website and there and it even had a listing for Sudbury which was great as most places I found were down south. I left a msg and a guy called me to schedule a date. The guy in sudbury who presented the course, I forget his name, did a great job. We were not coached, we went through the entire course. He was also able to administer the exam. It was a small group only 4 of us and we had all printed off the manual from the internet so there was no need to buy one.
Another classmate and I both expressed interest in getting our RPAL when we first arrived and between the online manual and youtube we felt we could pass the RPAL without going through the RPAL course. Our instructor contacted the CFO to inquire about it, would it be ethical, it was decided since we went though the non restricted course and exam with our instructor if he was not going to deliver the restricted course it could be a problem. He contacted another instructor so there would be no conflict of interest who would administer the RPAL test for us.
After the written and practical which the other student and I did isolated from eachother, the instructor commented that he was impressed as many people try to challenge but dont have a clue, but we were safe and spot on.
I can not speak for the terra nova as a hole but here in Sudbury they were right on the money!
Getting my application approved and my RPAL issued was another issue, however that was due to a reference having a job during the day when the RCMP called and then a mail strike.
Big_red_truck
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The purpose of his course is education. You take his course , and you challenge the RPAL test. That's why he refunds you 80$. If the OP didn't have his head so far up his you know what maybe he would of figured this out. It's a great course to take for someone that has never handled a firearm before.
I've done R/Pal about 6 yrs ago,my friend did about 3 yrs ago, my yonger brother did this last summer in Ottawa and guess, all through Tera Nova. Owner brought licensed officer for exam, I even got hunting license trough them as well.
So, more details would be nice.
So, more details would be nice.
I tried to use their services last year with no success. I actually couldn't get into contact with them even after calling numerous times and leaving a detailed message.Figured they went out of business. I was able to find a local(somewhat)agency where I could go do my course and exam. They gave me the manual and gave me a date to come back and take the course and right the exam. It was a very good thorough run through of the manual with any questions being answered by the very knowledgeable fellow running the course.Took about six hours to go through the manual after which I wrote my exam(took about 10-15 minutes)and did the practical test. Went very well and the next day you were given the option of doing the hunters course laid out in the same manner,read through the manual then take the exam. I was very pleased with their service and will be taking the course for my RPAL with them the next time it's offered.
Your original instructor could have done the CRFSC test challenge. That would be 100% in keeping with the FSESO policies approved by the CFO. Whoever was concerned about the ethics of the scenario was ill-informed.
