Stormchaser
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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The 222 Rem for moose?
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nowarningshot
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There is a guy up here who killed an 82" bull mouse with 13 shots using a 17 Remington. He thinks the bullets failed.
Wondering what your experiences have been with the 17 Rem on mice?
Ted
There i fixed it for you.
Someone has to speak with Looky, his bad spelling and pronunciation is spreading.
There is a guy up here who killed an 82" bull moose with 13 shots using a 17 Remington. He thinks the bullets failed.
Wondering what your experiences have been with the 17 Rem on moose?
Ted
Never met any of those idiots sorry
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
At factory velocities of around 4000 fps., it's easy to see why the guy's bullets failed as they would come apart before getting in deep enough to have good effect. Besides, it's bad sport to piss-off a moose.
If one loads the .17 to around 2500-2700 fps. with the Hornady 25 gr. hollow point they now have a pill that will work with a side-on brain shot inside 100 yds. It's borderline stunt shooting fer sure, but lots of folks have done it on large game.
There's an unofficial "One Shot Headshot Club" out there that specialize in using sub-.22 caliber rifles & handguns on elk, moose and such.
If one loads the .17 to around 2500-2700 fps. with the Hornady 25 gr. hollow point they now have a pill that will work with a side-on brain shot inside 100 yds. It's borderline stunt shooting fer sure, but lots of folks have done it on large game.
There's an unofficial "One Shot Headshot Club" out there that specialize in using sub-.22 caliber rifles & handguns on elk, moose and such.
Brilliant!!
Although I only hunt in thick bush, so I'm sure my shorter range SKS bayonet will work better in the thick stuff.
When I am grouse hunting up north with my 12 gauge, I carry a slingshot in case I run across a moose... the slingshot is excellent, because it is quiet and stealthy and doesn't spook the grouse... for large game like moose I prefer to use .38 caliber lead balls and a tapered band "magnum" slingshot... even so moose can be tough, my last bull took 117 shots to stop... and they were all to the boiler room... except for the final coupe de grace, to the center of the forehead...
Slingshots on moose are not for everyone... you must be committed to extensive practice... shot placement is everything.
Slingshots on moose are not for everyone... you must be committed to extensive practice... shot placement is everything.
.222 and 22 Hornet (Even 22LR and Mag) used to be the poachers favourite, get him behind the ear at 50 yards and he's done.
There is a reason why there are minimum specifications for hunting moose, I have seen wounded animals that has been crippled by bad shots and enough dead moose "Not Found" to fill a warehouse of deepfreezers.
A lot of hunters do not spend the time target shooting and sighting in before hunting and to maim a moose with a small caliber there is probably a larger likelyhood that the moose will suffer longer.
Some hunters fire at a moose no matter the distance, I would like to know the ballistic info on the .222 at 500 yards. i.e. how deep penetration on a moose etc...
There is a reason why there are minimum specifications for hunting moose, I have seen wounded animals that has been crippled by bad shots and enough dead moose "Not Found" to fill a warehouse of deepfreezers.
A lot of hunters do not spend the time target shooting and sighting in before hunting and to maim a moose with a small caliber there is probably a larger likelyhood that the moose will suffer longer.
Some hunters fire at a moose no matter the distance, I would like to know the ballistic info on the .222 at 500 yards. i.e. how deep penetration on a moose etc...
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
There's a fellow here who has taken moose with his .22-250, and he loads it to .223 levels with 55 gr Corelokts, I know because I loaded some ammo for him with his recipe. I'd at least use a Partition or a TSX, but if it worked I'd have to sell off my .375 Ultra, my .458, and all my .30/06s. Mind you that little full stock CZ 527 does carry nice . . .
In the case of an experienced hunter who is feeding his family, and knows that any encounter with big game is good fortune NOT to be wasted, there is a very strong desire to "make it count" and the experience to know how.
A .222 has proven to work when the hunter selects the conditions appropriate to the cartridge and his skill. Those of us who have more money and a lot less time devoted to developing those skills hunting should take another approach.
The indigenous people of our country that have this experience carry on effectively. When you must fill a larder your approach to game might be flexible. I "think" (but don't know) that the skill maybe becoming less common but then access (if not ownership) to larger caliber is fairly easy ... finding a .303 if you want one for hunting anywhere in Canada is hardly a challenge.
At the other extreme we have folks that believe that nothing less than a .338/.375 H&H are necessary for moose or bears. And the .340 Weatherby is ideal for elk. Personally I like the .375H&H a lot and find that loaded down (or not) it is a great hunting cartridge for Ontario ... but it really isnt "necessary"
- Location
- Quebec city
Hahahahaha!
Pussy.
I took a black bear with an air soft last year.
hit him right between the eyes. The energy delivered by that plastic bb caused his brain to rupture. Dropped dead right where he stood.
Northman999
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Yukon
In all seriousness Ted, I also knew a guy years ago who hunted moose and bears with a .22 Hornet with factory 45 grain SP ammo.
And yes, he had access to .270's and 30-06's etc.
Absolutely no way I can approve.
