the 270 win is ideal for hunting FOR ME, but I'm scared of coming across a Grizzly..

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For my purposes, I think the 270 win is the ideal cartridge. However, I'm a little scared of coming across a Grizzly by accident like those two hunters in BC who got attacked. Therefore I'm wondering if I should have gotten the 30-06 instead. I've been reading up on Jack O'Conner's exploits and apparently he prefers the 270 win for everything except the bison, grizzly etc. and then he chooses the 30-06 for the bison/grizzly.

Now, given the 270 win is a very popular hunting cartridge, and people even hunt with smaller - how do you feel about encountering a grizzly? Not afraid? Carry a bear spray and that's enough for you? You're thinking you might be better off using a larger caliber?
 
Use enough bullet - controlled expansion in 150 grains and my guess is boo-boo is not going to be very happy.

I wouldn't be afraid - but then again I don't fear bears, I respect them.

The real thing is to be completely confident and competent with the firearm you have in one of those situations - easier said than done.
 
Carry a defender loaded with slugs and/or 000 buckshot, if you are that worried. I don't hunt in Grizz country, so I don't bother with this, but if I did... I would.

The .270 is a fantastic cartridge. Just get one.
 
Unless your loading your 30-06 with really heavy bullets, or buying heavy factory loads, there is not a whole lot of difference between the 2. A 220 grain bullet in a 30-06 is overkill for deer in my opinion so you likely wouldn't be carrying them if you did run into a grizz on a deer hunt.

I also favour the .270 for an all around cartridge, and wouldn't even consider a 30-06 as an upgrade. I would even bypass the .300 win mag, and I'd be looking at a 338-06 or .338 Win Mag if you really feel the need to step it up.
 
Don't worry about it to much your 270 is fine. In all honesty you may not have time to get a gun up anyways. There are 3 guys within 100kms of me that were attacked by bears (3 separate occasions). The only one that got a shot off was a guy packing a handgun (illegally) and did so while being actually being mauled. All 3 bears (one grizz and 2 black) were on the guys so fast there was no time to do anything.

Practice being fast and accurate with your gun, carry your rifle in your hands (not on a sling) and keep a knife on your belt. That's more important than whether your gun is a 270 or a 300.
 
The 270 will punch through a deer nose to a##hole without any trouble and go crosswise right through a moose. Penetration isn't an issue. It will kill a big bear if you put it in the right spot. Missing with a 458 Win mag isn't any more effective than missing with a 270. And carrying a rifle not suited to you or your intended quarry won't do you any favours.
 
If I was you, I would "upgrade" to a 30-06. You say your scared of the the grizzlies with a 270 in your hands. If a 30-06 makes you feel more comfortable in the woods, its worth it.
Although there is no real world difference in either caliber when shooting a charging griz at 10 yards.
 
elker said:
Did he kill 2 charging grizzlies with 270?
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In which case one would be better off with something bigger than an '06, provided one can shoot it well of course.

As far as the OP, like others have said, load a premium 150 and be done with it.
 
beretta boy said:
... and Jack (O'Connor) killed his only 2 Grizzlies (as far as I could find out) with the 270.
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O'Connor used the .270 because that is what he had in his hands when the bear showed up. He also shot grizzlies with the .30-06 and .300 Weatherby. He doesn't give a number but wrote " I have shot one with a .300 Weatherby, two with a .270, and the rest with a .30-06". When he went to Alaska to deliberately hunt brown bear ( as opposed to a target of opportunity) he took a .375 H&H.
 
Jack O'Connor didn't have the bullet technology we have today.

Get yourself a mono metal bullet and there is nothing in Canada you can't hunt with the .270, just no ass shots , they never work no matter what you are shooting. ;)

If you are confident with that rifle, that is the best insurance you can have!
 
On our last black bear hunt, my son took a 250 pounds black bear with Barnes 130 gr TSX in 270, it died before hitting the ground, devastating ammo... JP.
 
The reason I'm scared of a Grizzly is because I've encountered a Grizzly. It was on a bike ride, and we came out onto a parking lot and it was about 75 metres away. I've also come across a black bear that was about 30 metres away at a camp sight. Not dangerous encounters, but makes you think about possibilities and timing.

Thanks for the advice. Is it worth mounting something on the top of the scope (like a holographic sight or red dot) for quick target acquisition? I can't imagine trying to find a charging bear through a scope.
 
superlative said:
For my purposes, I think the 270 win is the ideal cartridge. However, I'm a little scared of coming across a Grizzly by accident like those two hunters in BC who got attacked. Therefore I'm wondering if I should have gotten the 30-06 instead. I've been reading up on Jack O'Conner's exploits and apparently he prefers the 270 win for everything except the bison, grizzly etc. and then he chooses the 30-06 for the bison/grizzly.

Now, given the 270 win is a very popular hunting cartridge, and people even hunt with smaller - how do you feel about encountering a grizzly? Not afraid? Carry a bear spray and that's enough for you? You're thinking you might be better off using a larger caliber?
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It depends on why you're out there.... a shotgun with slugs would suffice also a 45-70 guide rifle...... oh and not afraid, I've been in tight situations before, I'm confident I'll react well
 
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