The 270 Winchester and old myths.

many moons ago, I was quite poor (now I'm just poor), and I only owned a .303Br. I was invited to go to Utah for an elk hunt. Knowing that my poor old .303 was not up to the task, I did some research and discovered that the .270 was the rifle of choice for Elk. Flatter shooting than the .30-06 (which was king in my day) and less recoil. Not having the money to buy one outright, I borrowed a used one from a friend who owned a gunshop, on the basis that I would use it and if I damaged it in any way, it was mine and I would work off the cost.
The rifle worked fantastically, totally shaming my old .303 and making me into a wonderful shot who was talked about all through that 2 weeks in camp.
Alas, when I came home, I had to give it back and when it came time to actually buy another rifle, a nice Mauser K98 in .30-06 fell into my hands. Since then I have collected several more .303's, another .30-06, a .308, a couple of SKS's, and a 91/30 Nagant. The only one outside of the .30 cal range is my wife's .243.
I have vowed to shoot only .30cal stuff since it tends to keep my bullets and choices down to minimums. Although now, I am thinking of that .270 again...damn you guys!! New rifle, new brass, new dies, new bullets. Although I could just go with one bullet as was stated earlier. Nah! What fun would that be. NO, Ruger #1 in .303 first, maybe...or maybe not.

Rookie, sounds like you could almost have sold all your other guns and just packed the 270 and still be in good shape. Oh, best not sell your wife's gun.

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I actually think the old myth is that is is a great cartridge.

It's kind of flat shooting, but not really.
It's kind of hard hitting, but not really.
It has mild recoil, but not really for the above results.

It's in too heavy in recoil to be considered with light cartridges like the 6.5 swede or 257 Bob, it's not really hard hitting like a full jam 30-06 load with similar recoil, and it's not really all that flat like a 257 roy or even a 25-06.

I just think you mediocre everything for your money with the 270.

Didn't you shoot a 7 SAUM for a year? I have considerable experience with the cartridge, and others and say your statements lack real world credibility. It is flat, it is low recoil, and it's dropped everything from deer at 504yds to a moose at 350 with one shot. I had to move up to a .338 to find any visible at the shot impact difference and even then, it's pay off wasn't needed. With 70+ big game animals under my belt, I'd pace it with the .300's for 95% of the opportunities I would emerging upon. The voice of experience with this cartridge seems to speak similarly. Keep your day job.
 
I have a few different calibers to choose from in my safe, but I always seem to grab my .270 win...Perhaps because it is the first rifle that I bought, but it also just plain works, everything that it gets pointed at ends up with dirt on its face...

In fact there are only three animals that I haven't killed with it since I purchased it back in 1993; a walrus (.300 win mag), a moose (.300 win mag) and my grizzly (.375 h&h).

I regret not shooting my grizz with it now, as it is the only species that I have harvested without using it, but hunting solo I didn't want to risk having the bear get into the thick stuff.

I'm currently looking at getting some Woodleigh 180 gr PP SN boolits for it and loading them up for buffalo (if I get a draw;)) and if I ever decide to go for grizz again, which I will! The BC on these is .513 with an SD of .334, should work, right???

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I think the argument for lack of bullet options only comes up for Match grade type bullets that hunters would not be using anyways. As far as Options go from the standpoint of a confirmed 270 user I could not be happier.

Pathfinder, I agree. The only match bullets in .277" diameter that are readily available are the 115gr or 135 gr Sierra MatchKing, and hunters shouldn't be using them for hunting.

Now, Marshall Ambrose has started producing 168 and 175 grain .277" Matrix match bullets, right here in Canada!

Ted
 
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Well, I didn't say there was no selection. I said there was better selection with 7mm products. Especially if you want to shoot multiple disciplines from one caliber.

No response, probably didn't get to reading it again as quick as others do.

Nothing wrong with the .270, have one here.some 7mm, some 30 cal.

Simply stated that there was more stuff out there available. It is no myth, there is more bullet selection available in 7mm than .270, Fact, go do a search.
..... and my responce to this was that most shooters only use one or two bullets per gun anyways so the extra bullet selection advantage is moot. If the comparision was between a 7mm and a 303 or 8mm, there would be a very valid point to be made for a better selection advantage with the 7mm.

I wouldn't choose a 7Mag over a 270 because it doesn't offer any advantage for the hunting I do. Either one would be primarlily used as a deer rifle and I'm not interested in using a heavier magnum for deer hunting. It's simply not needed in this part of the world. If I want a rifle for heavier game, I just use a bigger bore.

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Rookie, sounds like you could almost have sold all your other guns and just packed the 270 and still be in good shape. Oh, best not sell your wife's gun.

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True, but I have had only one rifle before. What fun would that be now? Its like going from playboy bachelor and running a large string of women to being married. Needs to be the right damn one to make it work!! :D No, if I want one, I'll just have to go get one. I am never faithful to any one particular rifle, all depends on the hunting situation.
Dang the memories of the one that got away!! You guys have dragged them all up to haunt me again...
 
Pathfinder, I agree. The only match bullets in .277" diameter that are readily available are the 115gr or 135 gr Sierra MatchKing, and hunters shouldn't be using them for hunting.

Now, Marshall Ambrose has started producing 168 and 175 grain .277" Matrix match bullets, right here in Canada!

Ted

Id like to try some matrix bullets, I dont' know if 168 or 175 grain bullets would be any good for my 270 (would have to seat deep to fit in the magazine and not sure I have the right barrel twist) .

I think I will order 150's at the very least to try them out.
 
Recoil??? I just had my new feathwieght 270 to the range. I haven't shot anything that small for quite a while. I heard it go off but recoil? Come on. I guess this is where all the little guns kill just as good as big ones comes from, NO experience with anything large.
 
They suck..I see no benefit from owning one period, that goes for 90% of all 06 based chamberings.

Way to destroy any credibility you may have.

While there are reasons to not choose a .270 for a particular job because other rounds may be more appropriate, statements like that are just silly. "They suck", is not logical discussion or argument at all - unless maybe you're 12.
 
Only one complaint I have with the 270 is that I sold mine about 6 years ago and kick my ass ever since.
I don't ever remember in the 15 plus years I used it having to fire a second shot, it was used for coyote, deer and took one moose.
I will have another someday.:(
 
They suck..I see no benefit from owning one period, that goes for 90% of all 06 based chamberings.

No benefit versus what, exactly?

No benefit versus no gun? Wrong, it offers a big benefit.
No benefit versus a 303br? Wrong again. Way better trajectory.
No benefit versus a 300 Mag? Wrong again. It offers similar trajecotries with less powder and recoil.
No benefit versus a 30-06... arguable [and has been argued many, many times.

Well, maybe we're misunderstanding Mr. Noneck here.
Maybe he's saying that he shoots a 30-06 and doesn't see the benefit of any other '06 based cartridge.

But even still, that doesn't make the .270 suck. Not even close.
 
Myself, I LOVE '06 based cartridges. I LOVE the .270, but don't own one at present. I DO own a couple 30-06's, a couple .280's and a 6.5-06.
They're not vastly different, no, but they are SLIGHTLY different, and I like them each a lot.
 
oh no..280 vs 270 Arguments:eek:

Where can I get a gun chambered in 280 again ?:p

Brand new rifles chambered in .280 can come in any of the x-bolt rifles, or a Remington 700 MTN Rifle LSS.
Only a couple years ago, maybe even last year, you could get Ruger rifles in .280.

No, the .280 isn't as popular as the .270, but that's part of it's allure. The people who like the .280 usually are the types that are drawn to oddball cartridges just to be 'different'.
 
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