i'd steer clear of the SIR surplus, wen to have a look at these No.4's i heard a guy talking about, was a real nice gun $299, thought a little high, but if it's a minty No.4 with bayo included could at least be worth a look, and here is what i found. a Savage No.4 Mk 1 action. fitted into refinished sporterized stock, no handguard on top of the barrel. it had been cut at about 20 inches or so and had No.5 Jungle Carbine flash suppressor attached, was being billed as a No. 4 carbine. who ever buys that thinking it's a original surplus rifle seserves to be cheated out of $300......


















































