The .45 ACP Enfield Thread!

maple_leaf_eh said:
The holes will not align with your point of impact after all the redesign. The flippy sight is the easiest to modify if you decide to weld up the holes and drill new ones up or down. The original Delisle had a ramp on the barrel, so let that be your clue.
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Have you built one, what is your sight setup?

I’m genuinely interested in how things will line up, what has worked for people that have these conversions finished. Ultimately there’s going to be some experimenting going on with a straightedge and different height front sight blades, which I have. Or custom making something, which I don’t think will be hard to do. I’ve done it before with shotguns and rifle sights successfully, though the rear sight was an adjustable ramp and not fixed.

I’m hoping the original Enfield sight will be tall enough and have enough meat to be opened up to the diameter of the conversion barrel, front sight blades in different heights are easy to find or modify if needed.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
The holes will not align with your point of impact after all the redesign. The flippy sight is the easiest to modify if you decide to weld up the holes and drill new ones up or down. The original Delisle had a ramp on the barrel, so let that be your clue.
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The Deslisle used a Lanchester SMG rear sight attached to the rear end of the suppressor tube.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
The holes will not align with your point of impact after all the redesign. The flippy sight is the easiest to modify if you decide to weld up the holes and drill new ones up or down. The original Delisle had a ramp on the barrel, so let that be your clue.
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They also had a suppressor shroud that the sights were mounted on it. How I had my 9mm setup. Crosman 760 rear sight and then a m1 carbine front sight on the shroud. But it be much higher than the No4.
 
The Deslisle tube was eccentric to the barrel. The sights were at essentially the same height as an original No1 Enfield.

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Butcherbill said:
Have you built one, what is your sight setup?

I’m genuinely interested in how things will line up, what has worked for people that have these conversions finished. Ultimately there’s going to be some experimenting going on with a straightedge and different height front sight blades, which I have. Or custom making something, which I don’t think will be hard to do. I’ve done it before with shotguns and rifle sights successfully, though the rear sight was an adjustable ramp and not fixed.

I’m hoping the original Enfield sight will be tall enough and have enough meat to be opened up to the diameter of the conversion barrel, front sight blades in different heights are easy to find or modify if needed.
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The No.4 sights are a theoretical 1" about the bore at 100 yds. The front sights are increments of ten thousands of an inch, with number zero as (you guessed it), 1 inch.

Have I built a Delisle? No, but I have played around with No.4s a bit ....
 
Snider shooter said:
A Remington 788 front site works. Just over 1” high.
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Thanks, 1” high from center of the bore or the top of the barrel? My no.4 front sight is 1” bight from bore center and 3/4” high from the top of the barrel.

OD of the bayonet lug is 0.729”-0.730” so could possibly be swapped, have to measure the muzzle of the .45acp barrel and see what I’m working with.
 
Butcherbill said:
Thanks, 1” high from center of the bore or the top of the barrel? My no.4 front sight is 1” bight from bore center and 3/4” high from the top of the barrel.

OD of the bayonet lug is 0.729”-0.730” so could possibly be swapped, have to measure the muzzle of the .45acp barrel and see what I’m working with.
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Barrel diameter is .710
The threaded section is .625

I'm going to determine the front sight height with a bent nail and a hose clamp. How I did it with my 9mm Lee to figure the front sight height I needed.
 
Shoots quite well, is plenty accurate. I've been using fairly light loads in it, so even though the suppressor is faux, it's pretty quite. Glad I made it, but not sure I'd ever want to make one again. Lots of work.
 
The more I measure the more I think the original No.4 front sight base will work with a bit of fitting, my .45 barrel at the end of the threaded muzzle is 0.700”-0.705” and increases slightly as it tapers.

The od of the No.4 barrel and not the bayonet lug is 0.695”, will be easy to open it up on the lathe to fit. I have a few different heights of sight blades and if needed I can make one once I know what height of front blade is needed.
 
I'm looking at getting a marble front ramp put on mine. My receiver is a mint LB No7 so I really don't want to D&T for a Williams rear peep.

I like the RDS but the chin weld sucks, and even with a cheek rest made from a old forearm, it wasn't good enough.
 
OkayShooter said:
I'm looking at getting a marble front ramp put on mine. My receiver is a mint LB No7 so I really don't want to D&T for a Williams rear peep.

I like the RDS but the chin weld sucks, and even with a cheek rest made from a old forearm, it wasn't good enough.
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I hear you on the chin weld, my other No.4 sporter has an Addley mount and it’s a chin weld as well. I have gotten used to it though, the one I’m thinking of converting to .45 has been d&t'd for a weaver rail already. Once I thread it for a short picatinny rail I think it will be lower than the Addley setup I’m used to, I would prefer irons only if I can get them sorted out but having a red dot might be a nice thing.

Id like to keep the No.4 front sight block and put the front sight protector back on, to keep the overall No.4 esthetic that I like.
 
Butcherbill said:
I hear you on the chin weld, my other No.4 sporter has an Addley mount and it’s a chin weld as well. I have gotten used to it though, the one I’m thinking of converting to .45 has been d&t'd for a weaver rail already. Once I thread it for a short picatinny rail I think it will be lower than the Addley setup I’m used to, I would prefer irons only if I can get them sorted out but having a red dot might be a nice thing.

Id like to keep the No.4 front sight block and put the front sight protector back on, to keep the overall No.4 esthetic that I like.
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Yeah I got the Bad ace mount.

I mean I like having a RDS as if I change the load I can make adjustments easy. Just gotta hover over the stock. But like the simplicity of Irons. I'll just being using it within 50 yards, and once a blue moon hunting rifle shoots.
 
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