The 454 Casull
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so you all are saying Rossi doesn't have a website?
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I did this a few years ago
can you provide a guide to read the data? did you note drop at 100 yards or further?
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Rossi has had a website for years but when I googled it just now there was a message saying it isn't secured so maybe they got hacked and shut it down..... dunno. I was on it a few weeks ago.
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I honestly haven't read many...so don't recall the format / layout of how the info is displayed. looks like several velocities from a batch of several shots?
Hope this helps
First bullet entry is a 240gr Hornady XTP-Mag bullet then grains of powder next is type of powder 1) is first shot = velocity of 2258 feet per second 2) second shot = velocity of 2327 feet per second 3) third shot = 2316 feet per second
First bullet entry is a 240gr Hornady XTP-Mag bullet then grains of powder next is type of powder 1) is first shot = velocity of 2258 feet per second 2) second shot = velocity of 2327 feet per second 3) third shot = 2316 feet per second
Rossi has them; Model 92. I have one in stainless but I think they are only available blued for this model year.
The difference is that the Rossi 1892 in a 20" barrel weighs 5.6 lbs. Try finding any rifle that's comparable in a power to weight ratio, short of a rather expensive bolt action mountain gun. If you're hunting, I guess you can go for cartridge specs only. I carried this thing on my pack all day, every day, for a very long time, so the whole package mattered.
Whoever listed the 20inch R92 at 4.8lbs is high on bath salts.
I had two R92s in .454 in the past both 16 inch barrels and IIRC they were closer to the 6lb mark...still significantly lighter than any Marlin 1895 produced.
I sent them both down the road in favor of a Ranch Hand that I modified with synthetic stocks and using Ruger only .45colt loads gets very respectable speeds over the Chrony.
Wish I had never sold my .454 in the first picture especially now that Billy Boy has me sweating waiting to see if the Ranch Hand makes his no-fly list.
Damn those are nice. I ended up with a 20" blued version because I went out on rotation and when I came back the guy in the gun shop had one waiting for me since we'd talked about them casually before I left. I called him a #### and bought it on the spot lol! I think the first words out of my mouth were "this thing feels like a toy"...in relation to how light it was. Part of me really wishes I'd spent the time to hunt a 16" stainless one down though, but even back then they were hard to find. That said, I can't complain too loudly. The one I have has made it into my permanent collection so it's not going anywhere.
How long ago was that? What did it cost you?
No time to check weight but my 20" Puma M92 will hold in the mag tube 10 45 Colt and/or 9 454 Casull compare that to the 4 in my 18.5" barreled 1895GS in 45-70.
The M92 is a far easier rifle to pack as well as handier to shoot only thing I can't do is mount a scope on the M92 like I can on the 1895 action both are about the same for accuracy.
Just think 9 .452" 405gr WLNGC's in the tube and one more in the chamber...
Sorry for the quality of picture for some reason I have it saved as a document and cannot get it over to pictures so I gave up and just took a picture...
The M92 is a far easier rifle to pack as well as handier to shoot only thing I can't do is mount a scope on the M92 like I can on the 1895 action both are about the same for accuracy.
Just think 9 .452" 405gr WLNGC's in the tube and one more in the chamber...
Sorry for the quality of picture for some reason I have it saved as a document and cannot get it over to pictures so I gave up and just took a picture...
The two 16 inch .454 Rossis I had were closer to 6lbs,slightly under. The mag-tube arrangement specific to this model adds weight as well as the useless hockey puck factory recoil pad.
That little .45 Colt Ranch hand pictured on the scale that I modified weighs 4lbs 15ozs, and it has a hollow synthetic Ram-Line stock set with a flip-flop recoil pad which is way lighter than the Jungle wood that comes on R92s from the factory.
Now,that said, 6lbs is still very light for the type of power this rifle puts downrange especially considering the 1895 Marlin goes well over 7lbs in all its different configurations.
That little .45 Colt Ranch hand pictured on the scale that I modified weighs 4lbs 15ozs, and it has a hollow synthetic Ram-Line stock set with a flip-flop recoil pad which is way lighter than the Jungle wood that comes on R92s from the factory.
Now,that said, 6lbs is still very light for the type of power this rifle puts downrange especially considering the 1895 Marlin goes well over 7lbs in all its different configurations.
I did this a few years ago
I like the break down. I honestly never realized how much more velocity/energy the 240 gr were getting. I've just been casting up powder coated 300gr FP or using 300 xtpmags for all my 454 loadings. Guess I'll have to go play now....lol!
Also one thing to note. I used small rifle magnum primers at one point to load up some rounds because it's all I could find. Do not do it. I was getting like 1600-1650 fps w/ 300gr FP and 30gr of H110. I think it pushed the bullet too far down the bore before the powder burned and as a result lowered the chamber pressure. I saw this in my 223 as well, magnum primer dropped the velocity by about 300fps vs a regular. I use CCI primers, other brands might be different.
