The all new Famae flat top.

Bartok5 said:
Highly doubtful. The mounting design of the removable rail is pretty rock-solid if correctly installed.

Sadly, there is no readily-apparent work-around for the inability to mount replacement Iron Sights on this new "flat-top" version. That relegates the SG 542 to range-toy status in my view, as it cannot serve as a satisfactory defensive rifle without backup irons.
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Most integrated rails are milled with the receiver, for your rail to fail, your receiver must warp/be damaged beyond use
Your optic failing would be dependent on the quality of optic/mount you choose.

P.S. Irons don't work in the dark
 
brownbear53 said:
Most integrated rails are milled with the receiver, for your rail to fail, your receiver must warp/be damaged beyond use
Your optic failing would be dependent on the quality of optic/mount you choose.....
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We were discussing the relative merits of a bolt-on rail as opposed to a permanently attached (eg. welded) system. I'm not at all sure what you are on about....


brownbear53 said:
..... P.S. Irons don't work in the dark
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They do if they have Tritium inserts in them, as come standard on the Swiss Arms series, Galil, Valmet and other semi-automatic sporting arms derived from service rifles. They can be readily purchased for the AR15 as well.

Show me a non-electrically-enhanced optic that works in pitch dark. Even the Canadian C79 Elcan Service Rifle Optic with its Tritium Aiming Source does not work in full darkness as the target cannot be differentiated from the background. Lacking Image Intensification or Thermal Imagery, standard electo-optics are largely useless during hours of full dark. I spent 34 years in the Canadian Army Infantry, which included many night operations both with and without Electronically-Enhanced Observation Devices. Basic magnified optics don't do squat during hours of blackness....
 
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Bartok5 said:
We were discussing the relative merits of a bolt-on rail as opposed to a permanently attached (eg. welded) system. I'm not at all sure what you are on about....




They do if they have Tritium inserts in them, as come standard on the Swiss Arms series, Galil, Valmet and other semi-automatic sporting arms derived from service rifles. They can be readily purchased for the AR15 as well.

Show me a non-electrically-enhanced optic that works in pitch dark. Even the Canadian C79 Elcan Service Rifle Optic with its Tritium Aiming Source does not work in full darkness as the target cannot be differentiated from the background. Lacking Image Intensification or Thermal Imagery, standard electo-optics are largely useless during hours of full dark. I spent 34 years in the Canadian Army Infantry, which included many night operations both with and without Electronically-Enhanced Observation Devices. Basic magnified optics don't do squat during hours of blackness....
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Thank you so much for your service my friend. In that many years you must've trained many, many replacements and hopefully experienced technological advances for the Infanteer. I appreciate when our resident Veterans share some of the realities of serving in the CAF. I have no doubt you'd have loved thermal optics for those times other toys failed.

Back some years now I bought a Swissarms Classic Green from P & D. Brilliantly thought out rifle sights. Front post as normal but with a sturdy flip-up blade on the same plane containing a bright green tritium ampule. The rear sight is the rotating cylinder set on an angle ala-HK 91, 93, 94 etc. Regular peep aperatures for distances over 100m but the 100m aimpoint was genius. It was a cutout rectangular notch for the front post to optically drop into. This gave you a large field of view as you moved around with the rifle shouldered. Tritium makes another appearance as glowing green circles on either side of that superb 100m notch.

Even in pitch darkness, with the front flip-up post and the sight barrel set a 100m you get a perfect 3 Dot style sight system. To my credit I used that setup to nail a coyote on the farm that was getting pudgy on barn cat meat at nearly 70 yards with only a partial outline of him visible. Wonderful rifle and works very well for a southpaw.
 
Stupid question but I assume those are standard M-Lok slots on the hand guard? Are there any slots on the top or bottom of it?
 
SIG and Beretta jointly developed the SIG542 rifle
Beretta made it as the AR70 series
SIG made it as the 540 series
 
Honestly with most magazines from rimfire, handgun, rifle mags selling between $35 and $150, the famae mags aren't bad at $100 a pop, all things considered. Yes..... a type 81 mag is $30, however on the flipside a factory Sig 226 or 320 mag is around $80. My darn sako A7 mags are retailing for over $100....
 
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Canada1812 said:
Honestly with most magazines from rimfire, handgun, rifle mags selling between $35 and $150, the famae mags aren't bad at $100 a pop, all things considered. Yes..... a type 81 mag is $30, however on the flipside a factory Sig 226 or 320 mag is around $80. My darn sako A7 mags are retailing for over $100....
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I’m starting to get talked into this… haha
 
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