be easier if they went with 16 inch like the us
The AR-15 is made non-restricted overnight, what changes happen?
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Exactly.
I'm surprised this thread is still going. It's a nice thought but I can't see it ever happening. I hope I'm wrong but don't think they are going to give us any more rights or freedoms back.
I'd be happy just to see us allowed to use our mags to their designed capacity, or do away with the ATT all together and just let us use the registered restricted rifle of any length away from the range. Baby steps.
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I'm way more interested in AK variants becoming non-prohibited - so I can buy a Saiga 12
I think most of the negative folks here must not have been shooters the LAST TIME the AR was made nonrestricted. It isn't like there isn't a precedent for this happening, it has happened before, just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it can't. After all, I used to hike with an AK, the fact that you can't own one now doesn't change the fact that it happened.
I'd probably go straight away and get an SR762 and a vortex Viper for it. My grandpa would ask all sorts of useless questions about why I need it for deer, but it would be my hunting rifle 
The better choice would be a FAMAE, but those are already NR, and twice the price.
The better choice would be a FAMAE, but those are already NR, and twice the price.
I want to believe this is true so badly, but I can't let myself believe it.
I can believe that the Cons will float the idea of removing the AR-15 from the Restricted list as something they will look at doing if we re-elect them next year. If that's the case, they can blow their promises outta their asses because they already had plenty of time in power to make it happen and anything they say they'll do to the Firearms Act if re-elected in 2015 is simply an empty campaign promise that they have no intention of honouring. If they had any intention of doing it, they would have done it by now.
Besides, I really can't see the Cons winning in 2015, at least not a majority. I think Harper has pissed off enough of his base and JT has and will razzle-dazzle enough dreamers to give the Libs more than a fighting chance in 2015. And before you attack me, I'm not saying I want the Libs to win, I'm saying I think they will... with no help or vote from me.
However, removing AR-15s from the Restricted list now would probably go a long way to securing votes for the Cons in 2015. First off, it would make thousands of firearms enthusiasts happy as clams. Secondly, it would result in a massive increase in sales for firearms retailers, which is great for the economy. Thirdly, with Colt Canada wanting to start selling civilian variants of the C7 and C8 rifles as early as this summer, having them classed as Non-Restricted would greatly increase the sales of a Canadian company's product, which is better still for the Canadian economy.
So, Conservatives, we implore you to do the right thing and pass legislation as soon as possible that will remove the AR-15 from the Restricted list. Do it for your firearms-owning supporters and do it for the Canadian economy!
I can believe that the Cons will float the idea of removing the AR-15 from the Restricted list as something they will look at doing if we re-elect them next year. If that's the case, they can blow their promises outta their asses because they already had plenty of time in power to make it happen and anything they say they'll do to the Firearms Act if re-elected in 2015 is simply an empty campaign promise that they have no intention of honouring. If they had any intention of doing it, they would have done it by now.
Besides, I really can't see the Cons winning in 2015, at least not a majority. I think Harper has pissed off enough of his base and JT has and will razzle-dazzle enough dreamers to give the Libs more than a fighting chance in 2015. And before you attack me, I'm not saying I want the Libs to win, I'm saying I think they will... with no help or vote from me.
However, removing AR-15s from the Restricted list now would probably go a long way to securing votes for the Cons in 2015. First off, it would make thousands of firearms enthusiasts happy as clams. Secondly, it would result in a massive increase in sales for firearms retailers, which is great for the economy. Thirdly, with Colt Canada wanting to start selling civilian variants of the C7 and C8 rifles as early as this summer, having them classed as Non-Restricted would greatly increase the sales of a Canadian company's product, which is better still for the Canadian economy.
So, Conservatives, we implore you to do the right thing and pass legislation as soon as possible that will remove the AR-15 from the Restricted list. Do it for your firearms-owning supporters and do it for the Canadian economy!
Don't get me wrong, I own 4 AR's and would like nothing more than to be able to use them away from the range. I just don't see the powers that be reducing restrictions on firearms after reclassifying to prohibited an innocent rifle that has never been used in the commission of a crime in Canada and now with the latest moron nut-bag shooting spree I think our lives as legal, law abiding gun owners are only going to get more complicated.
I think our best chance is to fight to have the ATT system removed and let the rifle remain restricted (registered) and let us use them wherever it is safe and legal to use any other firearm.
If we can get that then we could fight for magazine limits to be removed (except for hunting?).
Maybe after that go for open carry.
Just because they let us do something years ago doesn't mean they have to let us again.
Precedent or not this is a different world than it was years ago, lot's of Liberal brainwashing and fear mongering has gone on since the good old days.
I hope I'm wrong and I hope the NFA actually sees there is hope to make this reality but I just don't think we are ever going to see any common sense or logic thrown into the system. Far too may people out there think that if they make something illegal the problem will go away. I usually start off by asking those people "how long has murder been illegal?", then "how long has cocaine been illegal?", "Do we still have both of those?" Then throw in the fact that far more people die in car accidents than by firearms yet I don't see anyone trying to ban cars. Hell, more people die every year from cigarettes than from guns yet no one tries to ban those.
Different time, different world.
With attitudes like yours nothing will change for the better.
As firearms owners we first need to believe that anything is possible, then work together for positive change in Canada's firearms laws...
Blastattack
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Eh... The guns have to be able to reliably kill polar bears and other hearty creatures. A .223/5.56 is a woefully inadequate cartridge for hunting just about anything, and certainly not for something that may decide you are lunch.
Guys have popped them with C7.
