I find myself attracted to your pics.
The Beginnings of a Mannlicher Stocked Rifle Collection.....
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I find myself attracted to your pics.
I owned that Dumoulin .358 Win but I just couldn't get my reloads to feed reliably. It worked fine with factory ammo...I never did figure out what I was doing wrong. I finally gave up and sold it on gunnutz to a guy out west and then a year or so later I noticed it for sale on a table at a big Easter Calgary gun show...I talked with the fellow about it and he seemed to have no problem with the rifle. He just wanted a change. Like many European rifles the wood grain was not completely filled...a quick coat of almost any oil will work when you are using very dense (and expensive) walnuts, but cheaper more porous wood requires filler. I didn't think it was a real high grade or expensive rifle. There are a various types and grades of Dumoulins made by different members of that famous gun making family. But apparently it looked real good in photos and was memorable.
The idea that one can't hunt with a high quality rifle has always puzzled me. Its been said many times before, but again, its like saying you shouldn't marry a beautiful woman because someday she might get old and have wrinkles.
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I get it. A few decades back, a gun collector acquaintance of mine in Vancouver was bemoaning the fact that he couldn't afford to go Elk hunting. I told him there wasn't much to Elk hunting. Get a guide or outfitter, plunk down a few grand and go shoot an Elk. Its just not that hard to do. There are plenty of Elk. I told him that all he had to do was sell two or three of his nicer guns and he could afford to go...but this was completely out of the question for him. His collection was more important than the hunt.
On the other hand, my brother was recently bothering me about how many rifles I own. He couldn't understand why I "need" so many. (I think I might have 10 keepers and maybe a dozen others that sort of come and go.) It doesn't seem like that many to me. He is currently in the market for one (1) and wants it to do everything. He will probably end up with some sort of combo shotgun/rifle, something that won't do either job very well (and something that will probably be illegal to carry many seasons as well). Anyway, I told him that "need" had nothing to do with it and that messing around with rifles was a lot more fun than having another savings account. One of these days its inevitable that the Canadian government will try to restrict the number of guns that can be owned by an individual, just like they currently do in Europe. Until then, our "needs" are our own business.
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gunrunner100
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^^^^this.
I’ve often said, a golfer doesn’t use just one club.
I’ve often said, a golfer doesn’t use just one club.
I notice that these mannlicher stock type rifles are usually quality brand names known for accuracy. How come a full stock does not affect accuracy? I keep hearing that a free floated barrel and a supported action are key to consistent grouping. There’s obviously more than one way to build a tack driver. Can someone explain how these stocks work in this context?
Nice rifles by the way.
Nice rifles by the way.
In my experience, fullstocks will negatively affect the accuracy of a centerfire rifle, but only after three or four quick shots, when the barrel heats up. This is meaningless for a hunting rifle, when its the first and maybe second shot from a cold barrel that counts. (Except when hunting a few times in serious Grizzly country, I have never loaded more than three cartridges in my rifles anyway...keeps the weight down.) At the range, let them completely cool between shots and they will shoot those little groups along with the best of them.
That said, if you want to spend an entire summer afternoon shooting gophers with a centerfire you might want to choose something else...its hard to get barrels to cool right down between shots especially on a hot day in the sun...or you can make an actual sport of it and use a .22.
That said, if you want to spend an entire summer afternoon shooting gophers with a centerfire you might want to choose something else...its hard to get barrels to cool right down between shots especially on a hot day in the sun...or you can make an actual sport of it and use a .22.
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I too have started my full stocked rifle collection with the Rugers in the 10/22, the Model 77 (250 Savage) and the No.1 (257 Roberts); all in Lipsey's edition rifles for the stainless models.
Being a lefty, the No.1's have always been a little more interesting for me...but they will eventually go to my daughter as she shoots right handed, and any children she may have.
I have also acquired a new, unfired Sako left handed L691 in 30-06! Almost do not want to shoot it, but it will eventually get out there and hunt with it! Will be fun to hunt moose and bears in the timber with this! (sorry, unable to load pics) Would love to find others of the model in 6.5x55 and/or 9.3x62!
Perhaps someday I will be able to track down one of the Steyr Model M's that they made left handed with the full stock.
Some of the CZ's have very nice wood too! Wish they had made some left handed!
So far I have built a custom full stocked 376 Steyr on a left handed Ruger M77 with a Wenig pepper laminated stock. Have taken elk and bison with this rifle and the 260gr AccuBond to date. This load will produce 1/2" groups in this rifle. Have plans for a similar stock for the same configuration rifle in 416 Taylor.
Looking to find a couple of nice French or New Zealand walnut blanks to be able to put full length stocks on my rebarrelled Winchester Model 88's in 7mm-08 and 338 Federal. Saw pictures of the full stocked rifles John Wooters had done on a matched pair of Model 88's in 7mm-08 years ago, and these have always been on my bucket list.
Those rifles pictured above just adds fuel to the fire for the passion for full stocked rifles! Ruger did put some nice wood on some of their rifles!
Being a lefty, the No.1's have always been a little more interesting for me...but they will eventually go to my daughter as she shoots right handed, and any children she may have.
I have also acquired a new, unfired Sako left handed L691 in 30-06! Almost do not want to shoot it, but it will eventually get out there and hunt with it! Will be fun to hunt moose and bears in the timber with this! (sorry, unable to load pics) Would love to find others of the model in 6.5x55 and/or 9.3x62!
Perhaps someday I will be able to track down one of the Steyr Model M's that they made left handed with the full stock.
Some of the CZ's have very nice wood too! Wish they had made some left handed!
So far I have built a custom full stocked 376 Steyr on a left handed Ruger M77 with a Wenig pepper laminated stock. Have taken elk and bison with this rifle and the 260gr AccuBond to date. This load will produce 1/2" groups in this rifle. Have plans for a similar stock for the same configuration rifle in 416 Taylor.
Looking to find a couple of nice French or New Zealand walnut blanks to be able to put full length stocks on my rebarrelled Winchester Model 88's in 7mm-08 and 338 Federal. Saw pictures of the full stocked rifles John Wooters had done on a matched pair of Model 88's in 7mm-08 years ago, and these have always been on my bucket list.
Those rifles pictured above just adds fuel to the fire for the passion for full stocked rifles! Ruger did put some nice wood on some of their rifles!
Johnn Peterson
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- Chemainus B.C.
While admittedly, I haven't had anywhere near the field or range round count experience through mine,neither have I. Also, I only have three such models,
the Lipsey Ruger Hawkeye 7x57 I purchased from you and two 
'inexpensive' Zastavas I got from Tradex.
A few years ago, Chris slimmed down this Sako 85 "Bavarian Carbine" in 6.5x55 for me. Those are his arms in the photos.
(Oddly enough he now lives only a few miles from where I grew up in Alberta and I presently live where he grew up in Fredericton, NB)
Also...that was very accurate rifle. A fellow in Southern Alberta now owns it and is very happy with it.
I remember that rifle and liked it a lot. Sako would do well to follow that pattern instead of the one they use. It's a vast improvement over the other.
Chris has been very good to deal with on the project at hand and patiently helpful with me to get a clear idea of what I wanted.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...3950447/custom-fn98-7x57-project#Post13950447
Chris has been very good to deal with on the project at hand and patiently helpful with me to get a clear idea of what I wanted.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...3950447/custom-fn98-7x57-project#Post13950447
