The Best Pump Action Shotgun In The World

The build construction may not be there comparatively to the mentions here.... BUT i think the Winchester SXP has the best action design by far.

IMO 870s suffer from weak ejections and 500s/590s have an unapologetically complicated trigger pack.
 
Nothing comes close to a 590A1 in terms of durability, reliability, serviceability, and modularity.
If it had the steel receiver like a Wingmaster it would be perfect. If the Wingmaster had dual extractors and a bolt on ejector {edit} and the thumb safety like the 590A1, then it would be perfect.
 
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If it had the steel receiver like a Wingmaster it would be perfect. If the Wingmaster had dual extractors and a bolt on ejector like the 590A1, then it would be perfect.
Can't disagree with that.

But for me, Mossberg would still be king because of the location of the safety and slide release. I hate the controls on the Remington.
 
Despite my username, Ithaca 37 master race.

Steel receiver, and a much thicker one than the 870 at that, despite that the gun is lighter in weight than most.

The lifter stays out of the way.

The receiver is 1.5 to 1.25 inches shorter than on the 870 and Mossberg, depending on version, which shortens the effective reach to the fore end and helps make the handling a bit more lively.

The factory safety button is raised and the action release is easy to get to.

The action tends to be smoother than on the 870 and Mossberg.

Dual extractors, granted only one of them is sprung beyond the early years.

Extremely positive ejection, gravity assisted.

About the only real downside is that port loading is more difficult, especially if you have thick fingers or are wearing gloves.
 
Despite my username, Ithaca 37 master race.

Steel receiver, and a much thicker one than the 870 at that, despite that the gun is lighter in weight than most.

The lifter stays out of the way.

The receiver is 1.5 to 1.25 inches shorter than on the 870 and Mossberg, depending on version, which shortens the effective reach to the fore end and helps make the handling a bit more lively.

The factory safety button is raised and the action release is easy to get to.

The action tends to be smoother than on the 870 and Mossberg.

Dual extractors, granted only one of them is sprung beyond the early years.

Extremely positive ejection, gravity assisted.

About the only real downside is that port loading is more difficult, especially if you have thick fingers or are wearing gloves.
Some may argue otherwise, but in my experience a single action bar just isn't as reliable and confidence inspiring.


'37s are cool though. They do handle nicely.
 
Some may argue otherwise, but in my experience a single action bar just isn't as reliable and confidence inspiring.


'37s are cool though. They do handle nicely.
It's a thick bar though, and I've never had an issue.

If you did it was probably due to a manufacturing defect.
 
It's just physics. Dual bars spreads put the load, and there is less room for error in terms of binding and sticking.
As I understand it, dual bars are something that's mainly justified by helping to compensate for the degree of slop inherent in the 870's slide-in barrel fit.

Whereas the 37, with its more precise and repeatable interrupted thread method doesn't really need it.
 
As I understand it, dual bars are something that's mainly justified by helping to compensate for the degree of slop inherent in the 870's slide-in barrel fit.

Whereas the 37, with its more precise and repeatable interrupted thread method doesn't really need it.
You guys talking about this made me get my Stevens 350 out. I would have said it is a complete clone of the Ithaca 37 but it has dual action bars, so it is not as perfect a copy as I thought. While the Stevens is a low budget chicom gun with some rough edges, the 37 design certainly is excellent overall and it is a favourite to carry in the bush for anti-bear duty.


Mark
 
I would say that the weaker ejection on the 870 is a legitimate gripe, as on most of them you really have to slam the fore end back to get them to pop a shell out as vigorously as a normal amount of effort will the others.
 
I've been away from this forum for... 4 or 5 years and I come back to this. The best pump shotgun ever produced has not even been mentioned.
 
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