The best rifle and scope to hunt a deer, might a moose?

j_m_ru said:
I went to Remington website; there are so many modes of MODEL 700™
• BDL
• CDL
• CDL LH
• Classic
• LSS
• LV SF
• Mountain Rifle DM
• Mountain Rifle LSS
• SPS
• SPS DM • SPS Stainless
• SPS Youth
• Titanium
• VLS
• VSF
• VSF LH
• VSSF-II
• XCR
• XCR RMEF

What model and caliber do you recommend for deer (potentially moose) hunting?
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Depends on your budget. If you're on a restricted budget, try and find a 700 SPS (or SPS-DM if you're a fan of detachable mags like me :D ). If money isn't an issue, go pick yourself up a 700 Titanium in 300 WSM and you're giggling like a little schoolgirl :lol: . Better yet, if $$$ aren't an issue, go pick up that UAL .284 Win for sale in the EE - sweet!!

For calibres, your choices are infinite for a deer/moose rifle. A more likely question would be what calibres aren't good for deer and moose :wink: . Pick up a .30-06 and you're good to go for damn near everything that walks North america, 'cept maybe a grizzly.
 
cosmic said:
Calum said:
Some of the best deer hunters in our area use such things as 1940 lever action Winchesters in .308
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Interesting! - The 308 calibre was not invented until the mid 50's - I guess those west coast hunters were just ahead of their time... :D
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Hehe typo..I belive .30/30 is what I ment, but when I see one of the guys again I'll see if I can take a pic.

Dang "0" numbers get me all fuddled. :wink:
 
The not very expensive part is the hard part. If you can find a good deal on a used rig then great. If I had to do it all over again to buying my first big game rifle I'd choose the following:

Rem 700ADL(synthetic) in .308win with a 2x7 or 3x9 (VX-1)Leupold in matte finish.

Nothing spectacular but you will get: a solidly designed rifle with good track record/waterproof stock/low glare finish, that will work and is generally pretty accurate out of the box, a scope that will work and adjust properly without having to be sent back, a cartridge that would be adequate for any animal your likely to run into/recoil not too bad/ammo available most places/accurate catridge with cheap surplus practise ammo available/relatively flat shooting/easy to reload should you get into that. Obviously lots of other choices of rifle/scope/cartridge as well but I would bet this combo would almost certainly be one of the most trouble free and pleasent purchasing/shooting/hunting experiences for a new shooter. This rig however would probably cost around $900.00 + complete, so not sure if that is low cost enough enough. Used you could do a bit better but run risk of possibly a somehow defective/bubbaed rifle. Stevens model 200 with everything else the same might be cheaper but I have no experience with Savage bolt guns.
 
You seem to be a little bit fixed on the Remington 700, although as someone has already pointed out, a Stevens 200 can be had for nearly $200 less than the cheapest variant of the 700, and I doubt if 700SPS is that much better in design or production quality, if indeed it is better at all. And Savage 11/111 models with the Accutrigger are probably available around the same price as a 700SPS.

However, more important than any argument about which is the better rifle, is which one fits you better? People are different, mass production rifles are made to be all the same, to fit a theoretically average size customer. Go to a reputable gunshop that has examples of each, and try them for fit and feel. Ignore the brand, get the one that fits you best. If you can't hold a rifle comfortably, you can't shoot it to it's full potential. It doesn't matter if manufacturer A's rifle can produce a 1" group while manufacturer B's rifle can only produce a 2" group, unless you can shoot rifle A that well.

And you will shoot better with a cheaper rifle that you can afford to practice with than one that cleans out your bank account and leaves you no money for ammo and no time for the range because you are working overtime to pay for it.
 
j_m_ru said:
I went to Remington website; there are so many modes of MODEL 700™
What model and caliber do you recommend for deer (potentially moose) hunting?
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• BDL
• CDL
• CDL LH
• Classic
• LSS
• LV SF
• Mountain Rifle DM
• Mountain Rifle LSS
• SPS
• SPS DM • SPS Stainless
• SPS Youth
• Titanium
• VLS
• VSF
• VSF LH
• VSSF-II
• XCR
• XCR RMEF

My personal pick would be the LSS Mtn rifle in 270 or 30-06 or the LSS
 
I'd see if anyones got any Remington ADL's left at clearance prices. WS has some in 7-08 (adequate for the average moose) for $499.

Top it with a Leupold VXI or II in a 3-9 and you'd have a good package.

The Stevens rifles appear to be a decent rifle for the money. A 30'06 or 7mm Mag can be had for about $500
 
dont' consider the 710, it's a piece of trash.


get a m700 SPS if you're looking for a low cost decent rifle


also get a decent scope, something at least $300. A Bushnell Elite 3200, Weaver Grand Slam, Burris FullField II, or Leupold VXI.
 
j_m_ru said:
I just found that Le-baron has Remington 7100 with pre-mounted, bore-sighted Bushnell® Sharpshooter® 3-9x40 scope for $438 CAN.
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Don't even think about it! :shock:

If you are wanting to stay in that price range, there are plenty of good used guns and scopes on this website.

Take a good look at the firearms for sale, be patient, and you will find one.

Ted
 
j_m_ru said:
I just found that Le-baron has Remington 7100 with pre-mounted, bore-sighted Bushnell® Sharpshooter® 3-9x40 scope for $438 CAN.
http://www.remington.com/firearms/centerfire/fi_710.htm
Is it any good? Why the price is so low? They have it in 270, 300 and 7mm. (they do not have it in 30-06 in stock)
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We assume you mean the 710, since there isn't a 7100. 1. Is it any good? It is some good, but not enough when for similar money you can get a lot more good in a rifle/scope package from Savage. The 710 package was an attempt by Remington to answer the Savage 11/111 (packaged with a similar quality of scope,) and to showcase some clever Remington ideas on design and production engineering, so that new shooters would start on Remington and hopefully stick with the brand when they wanted to indulge themselves with an upgrade. The ideas weren't as clever as they hoped, production quality has been problematic, and the Savage package is still better value with a fundamentally good rifle.

2. Why is the price so low? The reason the price is so low is that they can't get rid of them, and you'll probably have the same problem if you try to sell one used, unless you really take a bath on your price.

If you want everything set up for you like that, get a Savage package. If you want a Remington, get a 700 and sort out the scope and mounts yourself.
 
Stay away from short ultra-light rifles if you're new to the game.

personally - the sps series is an excellent choice for a newer hunter as far as a platform goes - they will do the job nicely, and are priced low enough to still leave you enough money to buy some decent glass. Remember - a rifle is only as good as your optics, a bad scope can turn a good rifle into crap.

I love detach mags, but you're probably best just to go with the good old detachable floorplate model. Less complex, less to lose, less to remember.

What you REALLY should be asking is what cartridge.

Your best 'all around' cartridges for deer and moose are probably:

the 30-06, the 7mm mag, the 300 win mag.

And if you're new to the game - i'd go with the 30-06. It's cheapest of the three to shoot so you'll be able to afford to practice more (practice will kill more game than anything - the more you practice and shoot the better) - has moose killing power out past 350 yards with the right load - Has probably the least amount of recoil all else being equal, and still works great in a 22 inch barrel.

A remmy sps in 30-06 with some acceptible glass on top and you'll have all the gear you need to hunt everything shy of bison and possibly big grizzes well. It's a great first cartridge. But the others i mentioned are fine too - so go with whatever you like.
 
Look at wholesale sports website and get a weatherby vanguard synthetic $429.00 (I think around there anyway). I have one and it's one of the best guns I've shot. Smooth action, not much recoil and comes in all the calibre's you'll ever need. You could top it off with a Burris Fullfield II for $200 and you're all set. It'll last you forever and will work in any conditions (bush or field hunting).
 
Sorry BIGREDD but I must disagree with your scope choice. :roll:

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I forgot to mention I will do Mostly bush and field hunt!
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If he's in some of our Ont bush 3X is just to much for quick target aquasition.
I believe he'd be better off with the same scope in a 1.5-4X :)

Guns sure good to go though :mrgreen:
 
If he's in some of our Ont bush 3X is just to much for quick target aquasition.
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what about one of the 2 - 7 offerings then? Nice mix of low and high power, good for closer in with enough reach out power to swat an animal at range if you have to comfortably?
 
Foxer said:
If he's in some of our Ont bush 3X is just to much for quick target aquasition.
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what about one of the 2 - 7 offerings then? Nice mix of low and high power, good for closer in with enough reach out power to swat an animal at range if you have to comfortably?
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Yeah, that's a good call, too, I think, but 3 X 9 with a good sized objective lense (ie. 40mm) should still do the trick and it's more versatile if you find yourself in a long range shooting situation - like road allowances or hydro lines.
As for package deals, it seems most of them offer "throw away" scopes. I liken it to buying those cheap fishing combo outfits for under a hundred bucks. You get what you pay for.
However, there are some good rifles for sale on this site in good shape for pretty good prices - I haven't noticed too many that weren't being fairly offered.
I'd think a 30-06 is a stalwart, but 300 WM is a killer, too, as is the 7mm Mag. All will take a moose easily, but you could be shooting a .416 Rigby and without good shot placement... well, you know.
For myself I've just put together a Tikka M695 in 300 WM with a Bushnell 3200 Elite 3X9X40mm. I bought all of the parts from this site and altogether it cost me just over a grand, including Tikka Optiloks.

What's your budget? You can put together something decent for likely half what I've paid. :lol:
 
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