The big deer of BC's Coast

carverk said:
I have only stated the truth in hopes to help a guy out who is thinking about taking his Family over for a hunting trip
We don't think of Haida Gwaii as part of BC and neither dos the rest BC ore Canada for that mater that's why we're always getting screwed by The feds and the province
Yes we are cynical and distrusting we are fishermen that have seen us squeezed out of a Industry that our forefathers thrived on
Now fishing licenses are owned by doctors and lawyers who never stepped on a boat !
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This I agree with you on. I have no use for the so called "Slipper Skippers" either...
 
I started fishing with my grandfather wen I was 8years old hell all of us have bin trained to skipper a fish bout and be are own men from the time we wear kids
Now we see 12 million-dollar fish bouts going by are Islands and fishing are Waters and we are left standing on the dock 70% unemployment
Anywhere else in Canada their would be riot
Thar has alway bin a attempt to bring us to are Knees right from day one wen thy made Victoria the capital and sent blankets full of disease now thy are try and starve us out but you can't starve out any one living on Haida Gwaii yes we cheat sum time we learned it from the Government
We have bin sold out by Canada and the Province and we learned a long time a go we are on are on are own!

Sorry for going off topic
 
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Actually it's not against the law (exercising are aboriginal right)
Hunting at night is not something we do all the time but we do it wen need
I just think people coming over her shod be aware it is sum thing we do from time to time and I don't think wear in need of a moral judgment by anybody
 
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Quick, somebody call the Game Warden, these guys are fishing at night.... with artificial lights....hunting was done the same way.
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Anyways, my post was about whether big deer still existed as they apparantly once did, see the drawing on the first post, that is a big deer.
 
And the chapter has other interesting bits, the author describes how he started hunting in the 80's, that would be the 1880's. And the special method of hunting on Vancouver Island, one guy would walk ahead clanging a cow bell, the other hunter would follow behind, apparantly the deer would often fall in with herds of cows. He states that this method only worked on Vancouver Island. He also discusses briefly elk hunting on VI, he states there were only 2 bulls! in the district and he followed their tracks for 2 weeks.
 
bearkilr said:
How will they survive after your headstone moving event is over? Do you feed 500 peokple year-round
by night hunting?
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It's just for 1 to 4 days both Haidas and non-native are in Involved
It is a manger undertaking we house ,feed and give gifts to all of then
When we are potlatching everyone is welcome
We are a vary hospitable people and treat everyone with respect and demand the same
 
I've been to the QCI's a few times. Firast time was when I was 14 and we kayaked from The top to the bottom :) I only ever killed one deer there, and it was pretty small, but it was tasty. Caught lots of fish though. :) I'd love to arrange a trip there, to go hunting, as all other times were kayaking and/or fishing.

Anyway, most of the deer I've seen there have been small. I think it's due to the overpopulation, as under nourished deer will never reach trophy potential. That book was written about 20 years after the introduction of the deer. There was probably much more habitat and much smaller deer population at that time.

All that being said, I recall a few years ago on huntingbc.ca (fantastic BC hunting website that has awesome Administrators ) ;) someone posted a really nice blacktail taken from Haida Gwai. They had also shot some smaller deer, but one was a pretty exceptional trophy buck, so there are going to be some big guys there.
 
Gatehouse said:
I've been to the QCI's a few times. Firast time was when I was 14 and we kayaked from The top to the bottom :) I only ever killed one deer there, and it was pretty small, but it was tasty. Caught lots of fish though. :) I'd love to arrange a trip there, to go hunting, as all other times were kayaking and/or fishing.

Anyway, most of the deer I've seen there have been small. I think it's due to the overpopulation, as under nourished deer will never reach trophy potential. That book was written about 20 years after the introduction of the deer. There was probably much more habitat and much smaller deer population at that time.

All that being said, I recall a few years ago on huntingbc.ca (fantastic BC hunting website that has awesome Administrators ) ;) someone posted a really nice blacktail taken from Haida Gwai. They had also shot some smaller deer, but one was a pretty exceptional trophy buck, so there are going to be some big guys

Bring your Family I have lots of room I would take you out to find sum nice deer it's a grate place to Teach young hunters too
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I will certainly take you up on the offer at some point. Maybe 2014 or maybe 2015...:) I won't hunt at night (not because I think it's unsafe, as people world wide safely hunt at night, but it's not legal for me) :)

I think I will need my 375 Ruger ! :)
 
Gatehouse said:
I will certainly take you up on the offer at some point. Maybe 2014 or maybe 2015...:) I won't hunt at night (not because I think it's unsafe, as people world wide safely hunt at night, but it's not legal for me) :)

I think I will need my 375 Ruger ! :)
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Com up in November wen the hunting is hot
November we will see way more deer in the day and it's way more fun
 
Sorry if we got off on the wrong foot. I was not referring to Natives exercising their rights. Carverk I didn't know you were First Nations at first. I was referring to the ones market hunting, killing large amounts of deer and selling them. These also are night hunting to get away with this practice. These are the ones I have an issue with and has turned me off going there. It seems little is being done to deal with this problem. That is what I was addressing and if that is the case, then Yes I will take a moral stand on this. Cheers.
 
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